Thread: Questions about the Rapture

I absolutely do not believe in "Replacement Theology"!



Out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses a matter is established. We have 3 witnesses on this matter. We have Matthew, Mark and then Luke.

Luke shines a light on what exactly is the "Abomination of Desolation." And His witness points us to exactly what I have been trying to show y'all.

Luke 21:20 says "When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then you know that its desolation has drawn near.

Please note that in all 3 of these accounts Jesus says "Then let THOSE WHO ARE IN JUDEA flee......."

He is talking about what happened to Jerusalem in 70 AD and the few years leading up to it as the city was under siege.

This is totally backed up by the historical accounts of the matter.

The first 69 "weeks" were from the time Nehemiah was given the order to go and rebuild the city until Jesus was crucified.



The 70th week happened during the Roman desecration of Jerusalem.

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

I absolutely do not believe in "Replacement Theology"!
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Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

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The 70th week happened during the Roman desecration of Jerusalem.

Hey Zeke, I wanted to make clear that the question about "Replacement Theology" was not intended as an accusation or a smear of any kind.

It's just that God has not finished with the Jewish Nation and Daniel's 70th week is his final dealings with them as a nation during this age.

That has not yet happened.

The Times of the Gentiles lie between the 69 and 70th weeks...

Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

That is why the 70th week is the Tribulation period and has not yet occurred.

How could the 70th week have possibly already happened?

God is still not through with the nation or people of Israel.

If the 70th week has already happened then why is there so much end-time focus and importance concerning the very tiny nation of Israel?

And why is it that so much of the Book of Revelation concerns itself with events in Israel?

(Which is itself a 7 year period of time.)

Because that is Daniel's 70th week.


Take that together with the doctrine of His imminent coming for His Church (not knowing the day or the hour) and it all fits perfectly.

Again, a very important key to rightly-dividing and understanding end-times prophecy is understanding that God sees and acknowledges three groups of peoples (not just two - the saved and the unsaved) in the earth...

I Corinthians 10:32
Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

You may not like it, or agree with it, but it is so.


God is not done with Israel and Daniel's 70th week has not yet happened.









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Originally Posted by GodismyJudge

Hey Zeke, I wanted to make clear that the question about "Replacement Theology" was not intended as an accusation or a smear of any kind.

It's just that God has not finished with the Jewish Nation and Daniel's 70th week is his final dealings with them as a nation during this age.

That has not yet happened.

The Times of the Gentiles lie between the 69 and 70th weeks...

Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

That is why the 70th week is the Tribulation period and has not yet occurred.

How could the 70th week have possibly already happened?

God is still not through with the nation or people of Israel.

If the 70th week has already happened then why is there so much end-time focus and importance concerning the very tiny nation of Israel?

And why is it that so much of the Book of Revelation concerns itself with events in Israel?

(Which is itself a 7 year period of time.)

Because that is Daniel's 70th week.


Take that together with the doctrine of His imminent coming for His Church (not knowing the day or the hour) and it all fits perfectly.

Again, a very important key to rightly-dividing and understanding end-times prophecy is understanding that God sees and acknowledges three groups of peoples (not just two - the saved and the unsaved) in the earth...

I Corinthians 10:32
Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

You may not like it, or agree with it, but it is so.


God is not done with Israel and Daniel's 70th week has not yet happened.









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I will study Daniel's 70th week freshly.

Do you think that the time of the gentiles ended in 1948?

And could the great earthquake that separated the great city into 3 parts actually be a picture of where Jerusalem is today, a Jewish section, a Christian section and a muslim section?

Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33

....And could the great earthquake that separated the great city into 3 parts actually be a picture of where Jerusalem is today, a Jewish section, a Christian section and a muslim section?

(I'll try to address your first question when I can find some time.)

But right off the bat, I can tell you that the answer to your second question is, no.

That earthquake has not yet happened...

Revelation 16:16-21
(16) And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
(17) And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
(18) And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
(19) And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
(20) And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
(21) And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

You are pretty sure that it is supposed to be an actual earthquake? What made me think about it was it said that it split the city into 3 parts, and Jerusalem is to my understanding divided into 3 different parts right now. I thought maybe it was a "shaking" which led to the current divided city.


I also wonder if it is still under "the time of the gentiles" because of this current occupation, or if that ended when they became a nation again.

Good stuff to chew on for sure.

Originally Posted by GodismyJudge

Hey Zeke, I wanted to make clear that the question about "Replacement Theology" was not intended as an accusation or a smear of any kind.

It's just that God has not finished with the Jewish Nation and Daniel's 70th week is his final dealings with them as a nation during this age.

That has not yet happened.

The Times of the Gentiles lie between the 69 and 70th weeks...

Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

That is why the 70th week is the Tribulation period and has not yet occurred.

How could the 70th week have possibly already happened?

God is still not through with the nation or people of Israel.

If the 70th week has already happened then why is there so much end-time focus and importance concerning the very tiny nation of Israel?

And why is it that so much of the Book of Revelation concerns itself with events in Israel?

(Which is itself a 7 year period of time.)

Because that is Daniel's 70th week.


Take that together with the doctrine of His imminent coming for His Church (not knowing the day or the hour) and it all fits perfectly.

Again, a very important key to rightly-dividing and understanding end-times prophecy is understanding that God sees and acknowledges three groups of peoples (not just two - the saved and the unsaved) in the earth...

I Corinthians 10:32
Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

You may not like it, or agree with it, but it is so.


God is not done with Israel and Daniel's 70th week has not yet happened.









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I have no problem with it. When Jesus judges the nations, Israel will be on the sheep side for sure.


As individuals, I don't think that scripture shows that God deals with the individuals from Israel any differently than He deals with any other individual. Without Jesus they will be eternally condemned because of their sin.

I guess the next thing to study would be what exactly is supposed to happen during Daniel's 70th week, and then compare what is written in scripture with history.

Starting to follow the trail:


What Are the 70 Weeks of Daniel? What Does this End Times Prophecy Mean?