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    What does it mean that Jesus tasted death ?

    Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.

    Heb 2:14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil

    It amazes me how Christians read that and then they think that "tasting death" and "through death" refers to the interval of time in Jesus' life that began with his being nailed to the cross and ended with the moment he died physically. Meaning that they equate that with "when Jesus hung on the cross".

    Heb 5:7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear

    Here Jesus prays to God to save him from death and he was heard. So how exactly did his prayer save him from death ? Did it cancel his being nailed to the cross ? Did it cancel his dying physically on the cross ? Nope. The only death that God saved him from was the one he tasted while in Hades for three days. God saved him from that by resurrecting him out of there and back into "the land of the living".

    We may take this certain information and read the verses from Hebrews again :

    Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death in Hades crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone in Hades.

    Heb 2:14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death in Hades He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil

    While he may be said to experience death in a spiritual sense while hanging on the cross, what the cross did was to send him, through physical death, into a state of death in Hades which he then experienced for three days before being resurrected miraculously out of that intrinsically final state of death.

    Don't equate "being crucified" with "tasting death". The two are incompatible. God never saved Jesus from the cross.

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    The "pains of His crucifixion" would have been limited to "physical suffering" and would have been over in matter of hours (sometime days for criminals).
    It is my belief that when Peter mentions in Acts 2 that Jesus was released from the "pains of death" that it implied something more than physical death.
    Jesus "tasted spiritual death" for lost mankind in Hades until His resurrection. There seems to be no other logical explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    The "pains of His crucifixion" would have been limited to "physical suffering" and would have been over in matter of hours (sometime days for criminals).
    It is my belief that when Peter mentions in Acts 2 that Jesus was released from the "pains of death" that it implied something more than physical death.
    Jesus "tasted spiritual death" for lost mankind in Hades until His resurrection. There seems to be no other logical explanation.
    Jesus didn't suffer physically after the moment of physical death on the cross. The resurrection didn't release him from anything that happened three days earlier while he was still in the body. To the contrary, his death separated him entirely from his body and any pain that it had produced in his soul previously.

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    I'm also placing this post here, as a resource :

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    The sin offering :

    Lev 16:15 “Then he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat.

    Which is explained in the next chapter :

    Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’

    The word translated life is nephesh and it's translated as soul in over 60 percent of the 750 occurrences in the KJV. It means soul, self, essential life.

    Shedding some of the goat or bull's blood and then sprinkling it on the mercy seat was not sufficient for atonement. Then the soul would remain in the animal. It had to be killed first, which implied that its blood was poured out unto death and therefore its soul was poured out unto death along with the blood. Only its physical death completed the act of pouring out its soul unto death and now its soul was fully dead, along with its body. The blood of the dead animal represented its dead soul that was poured out along with the blood.

    This becomes a picture of the sin offering of Jesus. His blood was shed on the cross and his soul unto death along with. His soul being poured out unto death was completed by his physical death and his soul was now fully dead. The dead animal's soul would return to God who gave it and the picture ends there but the soul of the dead Jesus descended into Hades and remained there in the birthpangs of death until God resurrected him because He was satisfied that Jesus had died completely to sin.

    Just as there is no atonement in the OT without the animal dying so that its soul is now fully poured out unto death along with the blood, there is also no atonement in the NT without Jesus dying physically so that his soul was now fully poured out unto death along with his blood. One may argue that he experienced this death in his soul already in the garden of Gethsemane and certainly on the cross but it was complete only after he was physically dead and in Hades.

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    I haven't done any research (I'm sure none of you are surprised) but there's this little inkling in the back of my mind saying that sin and death are the same. When Jesus took on the sins of the world, he tasted death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lista View Post
    I haven't done any research (I'm sure none of you are surprised) but there's this little inkling in the back of my mind saying that sin and death are the same. When Jesus took on the sins of the world, he tasted death.
    He took on the wages of sin. Not in his heart inclinations but in his soul. And in terms of what things looked like in the natural, which amounted to eternal separation from God in Hades.

    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    James 1:15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

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