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    Hey VW

    I know you're such a fan of R.C. Sproul, you'll be interested in this.

    Today on his radio program he was talking about God hardening Pharaoh's heart. He said that, no God didn't enter into Pharaoh's mind or violate his free will. God's hardening of his heart was accomplished by God removing His restraining hand from Pharaoh after his repeated rebellion. In short, as I understood it, he was saying God cannot be faulted for the hardening of Pharaoh's heart. Isn't this along the lines of what you teach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I know you're such a fan of R.C. Sproul, you'll be interested in this.

    Today on his radio program he was talking about God hardening Pharaoh's heart. He said that, no God didn't enter into Pharaoh's mind or violate his free will. God's hardening of his heart was accomplished by God removing His restraining hand from Pharaoh after his repeated rebellion. In short, as I understood it, he was saying God cannot be faulted for the hardening of Pharaoh's heart. Isn't this along the lines of what you teach?
    Interesting Bookman

    It is exactly along the lines that I teach and has been as early as the early Jewish commentators taught and also at least from the time of the church fathers. I think I lay some of this out in my book "God is Said to do that Which He Only Permits". Can be downloaded as a free.pdf here:

    http://www.vindicatinggod.org/permits.html

    Now that I am finished with my flagrant self-promotion, I would still have to ask you a question that piques my curiosity. As a moderate Calvinist yourself, don't you think that his position on this is inconsistent with his Calvinist ideology?

    Also, you wouldn't happen to have the title and date of that program, would you?
    Christ's Victory Bible Teaching Center
    Web site: http://www.cvbibleteachingcenter.org


    Vindicating God Ministries
    (A Unique New Bible Teaching Ministry)
    Web site: http://www.vindicatinggod.org
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    Minds: https://www.minds.com/victoriousword/
    MeWe: https://mewe.com/i/troyedwards15

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    Sproul actually wrote about this in his books. Note the second paragraph in the book in the link below:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=_B...strain&f=false

    And the third and fourth paragraphs here:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=rA...strain&f=false

    I would really love to cheer for the late Dr. Sproul but then you find another book where he, like most Calvinists, completely contradicts himself:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=kk...strain&f=false

    I am afraid that I cannot give Sproul any props. I respect a man more when he is consistent in his beliefs, even if I may disagree with him. I have a harder time with a person who says one thing and then the complete opposite at another time.
    Christ's Victory Bible Teaching Center
    Web site: http://www.cvbibleteachingcenter.org


    Vindicating God Ministries
    (A Unique New Bible Teaching Ministry)
    Web site: http://www.vindicatinggod.org
    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/vindicatinggod
    Gab: https://gab.com/victoriousword
    Minds: https://www.minds.com/victoriousword/
    MeWe: https://mewe.com/i/troyedwards15

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Sproul actually wrote about this in his books. Note the second paragraph in the book in the link below:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=_B...strain&f=false

    And the third and fourth paragraphs here:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=rA...strain&f=false

    I would really love to cheer for the late Dr. Sproul but then you find another book where he, like most Calvinists, completely contradicts himself:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=kk...strain&f=false

    I am afraid that I cannot give Sproul any props. I respect a man more when he is consistent in his beliefs, even if I may disagree with him. I have a harder time with a person who says one thing and then the complete opposite at another time.
    I'd like to be an eavesdropping waiter if you had had dinner with Sproul. Doctrine aside, he was a very genial man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I'd like to be an eavesdropping waiter if you had had dinner with Sproul. Doctrine aside, he was a very genial man.
    I have found that many Calvinists are a lot nicer than their understanding of God's character
    Christ's Victory Bible Teaching Center
    Web site: http://www.cvbibleteachingcenter.org


    Vindicating God Ministries
    (A Unique New Bible Teaching Ministry)
    Web site: http://www.vindicatinggod.org
    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/vindicatinggod
    Gab: https://gab.com/victoriousword
    Minds: https://www.minds.com/victoriousword/
    MeWe: https://mewe.com/i/troyedwards15

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