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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    A true prophet is appointed by God. A false prophet is appointed by themselves and not by God. I believe the test of a prophet, whether he is true or false, doesn't necessarily count on whether his predictions come true, for even the predictions of a false prophet could come true. The test is rather if the prophet is leading people in the ways of God. Nevertheless, if a prophet made a bold assertion that his prediction would come true and it did not, than the person would be labeled a false prophet.

    If a prophet truly has a message from God, their main concern is not with the foretelling of an event(s), but with leading people to repentance and obedience. God is concerned about the present situation/circumstances in an individuals life, as well as with a nation, because He controls the future. If a prophet has correctly heard from God, and urges the people or person to turn from their sins and obey God, he may therefore have spoken of events that would follow the people's obedience or disobedience. This seems to be what Miss Green was implying in the video. This is why I agreed somewhat with what she was saying. Regardless of what was said in the video, a prediction of blessing may not come to pass because of the people/person's disobedience. Likewise, a prediction of punishment may not have been fulfilled, because the people repented.

    The 5 fold ministry (Eph 4:11) which includes prophets, are the Lord's provision for the church, to ensure that it is built and remains on a proper foundation and in accordance with God's plan. The NT prophet should not be overly concerned with adherence to foretelling future events, but must understand the importance in giving a message revealing God's will concerning people and events, and adhering to special instruction in particular situations. A prophets message shouldn't be overbalanced with doom and groom, but one of encouragement, and building up God's people as the message is brought forth in the power of the Spirit.

    If NT prophets are closely linked with teachers and, like teachers, will encourage and strengthen their hearers through expounding the Scriptures. With the increase of false prophets riding the platform in which we see today, it is with utmost importance to be able to discern the difference between the true and the false. Many false prophets operate from a spirit of greed (love of money) and say all sorts of things that sound good to the hearers that tickle the ears that is not a message from God whatsoever. Is the message in the video false? Is Miss green a false prophet? I honestly don't know. But I will use caution with what she is saying because of what I've heard from you. I will sit back and take a spectators view as to what she said, and watch as world conditions unfold if indeed these are the last days, and quite frankly, I believe they are.
    Yeah, I don't get carried away with the false prophet thing, some do speak by an evil spirit but most of it is human spirit. I don't think they intend to do harm but I don't know what good they do either. Repentance is always a good thing but can you imagine Jesus speaking to the city of Nazareth... clean this place up or I'm coming by in seven years to bust it up! lol

    Anyway, the harm they do probably has more to do with their hearers rejecting prophecy altogether after they've been burned a few times..

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Yeah, I don't get carried away with the false prophet thing, some do speak by an evil spirit but most of it is human spirit. I don't think they intend to do harm but I don't know what good they do either. Repentance is always a good thing but can you imagine Jesus speaking to the city of Nazareth... clean this place up or I'm coming by in seven years to bust it up! lol

    Anyway, the harm they do probably has more to do with their hearers rejecting prophecy altogether after they've been burned a few times..
    Jesus did pronounce judgment on local towns but it was always related to afterlife and not to catastrophic events in the here and now.

    Mat 11:20 Then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent: 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for you.”

    He didn't connect local catastrophic events to God's judgment, like the people that were killed by the tower in Siloam falling down on them.

    Luke 18:4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Jesus did pronounce judgment on local towns but it was always related to afterlife and not to catastrophic events in the here and now.

    Mat 11:20 Then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent: 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for you.”

    He didn't connect local catastrophic events to God's judgment, like the people that were killed by the tower in Siloam falling down on them.

    Luke 18:4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”
    Yes. Also ..

    Oh Jerusalem, how I long for you...

    > He didn't connect local catastrophic events to God's judgment, like the people that were killed by the tower in Siloam falling down on them.

    Correct Colonel, no death threats, etc. The perspective is always eternal and redemptive, the testimony of Jesus (the spirit of prophecy).

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    I do believe America has 3 major sins, all of which are traced back to rejection of God, period.

    As for these events being prophetic,,well eclipses and hurricanes and earthquakes were taking place hundreds, thousands of years ago....

    America is self destructing by rejecting God, He does not have to destroy it..it will destroy itself through it's allegiance with the destroyer...Satan...

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