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Bullying (cyber)
As a forum some of us were accused of bullying...perhaps we should consider this accusation...I believe there is a fine line between passionate debate and bullying. As a forum body it would do us good to self examine. Iron sharpens iron
There are some rules to this thread or it will be closed..
1. No bullying
2. When presenting examples suspected of being bullying no names should be mentioned....(discussing the act not the person! any personal posts will be deleted)
3. The purpose is solely to have examples presented and defined.
4. The purpose is to distinguish between passionate debate and bullying.
5. Keep it about the forum....bullying vs debating on TV is a different animal...
de·bate
[dəˈbāt]
NOUN
a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
synonyms: discussion · discourse · parley · dialogue · argument · counterargument · [more]
VERB
argue about (a subject), especially in a formal manner:
"the board debated his proposal" · [more]
synonyms: discuss · talk over/through · talk about · thrash out · hash out · argue · dispute · kick around · bat around
bul·ly
[ˈbo͝olē]
VERB
bullying (present participle)
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants:
"a local man was bullied into helping them"
synonyms: persecute · oppress · tyrannize · browbeat · harass · torment · intimidate · strong-arm · dominate · push around · bullyrag · coerce · pressure · pressurize · press · push · force · [more]
I will start
I welcome anyone presenting posts I MADE that they believe was bullying in nature and please state why you believe it was bullying..
I was participating in a discussion on a thread on Facebook when suddenly someone pulled my profile picture...and said it proved I was a racists...now that is borderline bullying and I asked the person whose page the thread was on to delete it as it was a personal attack...now that is IMHO bullying...
1. it was personal in nature.
2. It was unrelated to the topic
3. It was intended to intimidate
FEELINGS...I can tell you the feeling was different when this person did this than when this person argued with me and even got down right rude...
Which raises another question..the emotions of bullying and passionate debating...how are they the same...how do they differ?
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oh dang.. I should have caught this before my post! LOL!
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So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
Which raises another question..the emotions of bullying and passionate debating...how are they the same...how do they differ?
Passionate debating - I'm winning
Bullying - I'm losing
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So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
Anyhow, on the topic of bullying. It really requires a victim who lacks the ability to fight back.
Not so sure we have any victims here.
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Senior Member
Originally Posted by
John
Passionate debating - I'm winning
Bullying - I'm losing
There it is!
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Originally Posted by
John
Passionate debating - I'm winning
Bullying - I'm losing
Originally Posted by
Valiant Woman
There it is!
You stole my post.
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Super Moderator
Bullying is a word that used to have a specific meaning but has beun to be redefined...
I recall during the Romney Obama debates Romney called out a literal lie Obama told....if y'all remember even the moderator defended Obama which was against rules of debate..it was a CLEAR debate win yet the next morning headlines accused Romney of 'bullying'.
But I would add that I am reminded from time to time to be sure, especially on a passionate debate, that I measure my response....Would I say this to someone in person? Will this make a point or just incite m=negative emotions....is that statement necessary and helpful or will it serve to undermine my intent?
Like...So n so stated such and such...'if you had bothered to read it'
Now consider.....is my intention to present a fact and counter what I think is false....do I really need to add the inflammatory insult and what purpose does it serve?
Bullying said 'superior strength'. In language that could be injected by snide remarks, demeaning and condescending tones....saying things to disarm the other debater through comments aimed at heightening emotion or undermining the person's credibility.....not the topic...
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Originally Posted by
John
Passionate debating - I'm winning
Bullying - I'm losing
So you are saying how one is FEELING is driving my interpretation? Possibly...or maybe I am just throwing that in to accuse and deflect to call it a win?
What examples of comments would you call bullying?
PS...in a debate your post could be interpreted as bullying...it would be expressing superiority and secondly how would we gauge a WIN?
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