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    Jonah 1:17 . .The Lord appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was in the stomach of the fish three days and three nights.

    Matt 12:40 . . As Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    John 2:19 . . Jesus answered and said to them: Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

    General use of the word "day" is somewhat ambiguous in the Bible. For example, at Gen 2:4, day indicates the entire creation endeavor.

    I suggest we narrow the meaning of day down to just one relative to crucifixion week by falling in line with Jesus Christ. Who, than he, is better qualified to tell us how to understand a day as it was understood during the years when he himself was living in Israel?

    John 11:9 . . Jesus answered: are there not twelve hours in the day? A man who walks by day will not stumble, for he sees by this world's light.

    Days divided into twelve equal periods of sunlight were regulated by what's known as temporal hours; which vary in length in accordance with the time of year. There are times of the year at Jerusalem's latitude when days on earth consist of less than 12 normal hours of daylight, and sometimes more; but when Jesus was here; the official number of hours was always twelve regardless.

    I don't exactly know why the Jews of that era divided their days into twelve equal periods of sunlight regardless of the seasons, but I suspect it was just a convenient way to operate the government and conduct civil affairs; including the Temple's activities (e.g. the daily morning and evening sacrifices)

    In order to avoid confusion; I highly recommend working with the 12-hour day that Jesus Christ gave us in his statement at John 11:9, i.e. let Day be daytime and let Night be nighttime; viz: Days are when the sun is up, and Nights are when the sun is down.

    So, the three days and three nights of Jonah 1:17, Matt 12:40, John 2:19- 22 indicate three times when the sun was up, and three times when the sun was down.

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    I always took it that way....thanks for sharing

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    According to Matt 26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17, Luke 22:7-13, and Luke 22:14-16, Jesus ate his Passover dinner the night of his arrest.

    According to John 13:1-2, John 18:28, John 19:13-14, and John 19:31, the Jews ate their own Passover dinner after Jesus was dead and buried.

    Failure to discern the time difference between Jesus' Passover and the Jews' Passover invariably leads to unnecessary quarrelling and confusion.

    NOTE: It's commonly asserted that John's use of the word "sabbath" at John 19:31 indicates that the preparation spoken of in his gospel refers to preparing for the usual week-end repose. However, according to John 19:14, the preparation in question was relative to Passover rather than the seventh day of the Jews' week.

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    Lev 23:32 . . it is a sabbath of complete rest for you. You shall humble yourselves. Beginning on the evening of the ninth of the month, you shall keep your sabbath from evening to evening.

    That verse is useful for proving that the seventh day of the Jews' week doesn't have a lock on sabbaths.

    Two more special sabbaths like Yom Kippur's are Feast of Trumpets (Lev 23:23-25) and the first and last days of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.(Ex 12:16, Lev 23:5-8)

    When people are unaware of the existence of special sabbaths, they invariably misunderstand John 19:31 to be speaking of the weekly seventh-day sabbath instead of the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread; which commences at night with the Passover dinner of roasted lambs that were slaughtered and cooked that afternoon prior to sundown.

    NOTE: Seeing as how sabbaths run evening to evening, then the Passover's lambs are eaten during a sabbath night.

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    Seeing as how Lev 23:32 reveals the existence of sabbaths other than the usual seventh-day repose, then I'm convinced in my own mind that there were two sabbaths during crucifixion week.

    There was the first day of the feast of unleavened bread which commenced at sundown the day that Christ was crucified, and there was the regular week-end sabbath spoken of at Matt 28:1 and Mark 16:1-2.

    So the real challenge is not finding the three days and three nights the Lord predicted at Matt 12:40 and John 2:19-21. No, an even more difficult challenge is figuring out where to place the two sabbaths in crucifixion week's order of events.

    A Catholic once suggested to me that the two sabbaths were together, i.e. they fell on the same date. So I countered that the suggestion would not work to Catholicism's advantage seeing as how the standard Good Friday model is short by one night.

    With a little creative finagling it's possible to produce three days with the Good Friday model by counting all day Saturday as one of the three days Christ predicted at John 2:19, and counting Friday afternoon and Sunday morning as two days; thus producing three. But no amount of finagling can produce three nights as per his prediction at Matt 12:40.

    The only way that Good Friday's one-night deficit can be rectified is by giving Passover's sabbath and the regular week-end sabbath their own dates; viz: have them run consecutive instead of coincident.

    That would push Jesus' crucifixion day to Thursday; but hay, you gotta do what you gotta do in order to come up with those three days and three nights or be the laughing stock of the non Christian world because even a third grader can see right off that the standard Good Friday model's arithmetic doesn't add up.

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    Q: Well so what if the outside world is laughing at Good Friday just so long as Catholics believe in it?

    A: Irrational portrayals of crucifixion week contribute not just to the mockery of Catholics, but of all Christians the world over; and worse: the losing of people's souls in hell; here's why.

    Luke 18:14 . . I tell you, this man went down to his house forgiven rather than the other

    No; Jesus didn't say "forgiven" he said justified.

    The koiné Greek word is dikaioo (dik-ah-yo'-o) which essentially means to regard as innocent.

    In order for God to grant the tax man innocence, He couldn't merely forgive him; no, God had to exonerate him; and how does one legally do that without initiating a miscarriage of justice when there is evidence enough to indict?

    Well, according to the Bible, Christ was restored to life for our justification (Rom 4:25). In other words; though Christ's crucifixion was sufficient to obtain forgiveness for people's sins; his crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to make it possible for people to obtain an acquittal.

    1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, your faith is vain; you are still in your sins.

    An acquittal can be defined as exoneration; viz: an adjudication of innocence, which is normally granted when there is insufficient evidence to convict. In other words: by means of Christ's resurrection, God was able to cook the books so that it appears the tax collector never did anything bad. On the surface; this looks very unethical, but from the divine perspective it's all on the up and up.

    It's not too difficult to appreciate just how serious this is relative to the outside world. If they can be persuaded to mock the sequence of events during crucifixion week, they can just as easily be persuaded that Jesus' resurrection never happened; viz: they will miss the opportunity to get their records expunged and thus be exonerated. A record of their sins will remain on the books, hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles. Out ahead, at the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15, those books will be opened for review.

    Mark 16:15-16 . . He said to them: Go into the whole world and proclaim the gospel to every creature. Whoever believes and is baptized will be spared; whoever does not believe will be condemned.

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