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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Extreme left and right are no different.

    Hitler hated Jews and was far right yet he met with Muslims.

    Far left support Muslims and hate the nation of Israel

    It's all mixed up nonsense. Whoever is in rebellion against the scriptures is far from God and that's what matters
    Hitler allied himself with groups that he despised ideologically, including Muslims and the Japanese. If he had managed to have world dominion then the persecution of those groups would have followed after the eradication of the groups he mainly focused on. Even Norwegians would have been seen as somewhat lesser humans than "true Germans" unless they had been sufficiently integrated into German Nazi culture, language and ideology to pass as Germans. I know this because Norway was occupied by the Germans from 1940-1945. We were sort of seen as Aryans but not quite.

    Both extremes typically hate the nation of Israel and religious Jews, which is a spiritual phenomenon as you suggest. Some extreme right wingers do however embrace Christian values sufficiently to tip over into seeing Islam as their main enemy and they may actually find themselves on the pro-Israel side, not because of a love for Jews or Israel but as a function of their anti-Muslim sentiments.

    There's a lot of cardboard Christianity among European far right wingers, with professions that sound Christian and hearts that are full of hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Extreme left and right are no different.
    There's sometimes confusion about which side an ideology belongs to, extreme left or extreme right. One way of visualizing it is to create a political circle rather than a line, with centrists in white at the top, leftists in red to the left, rightists in blue to the right and the extremes meeting in the middle at the bottom, in black. Reasonable politics should be found somewhere in the top half of the resulting circle.

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    The worldview of a person is critical in how they see left and right

    Recently a long backslidden friend has started to fellowship with us again. Sadly in his backslidden condition he went politically to the left and embraced some foolish thinking.

    He actually thinks the rest of us are far right in our concepts. It's amazing what the mind of man will do without God in his worldview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    The worldview of a person is critical in how they see left and right

    Recently a long backslidden friend has started to fellowship with us again. Sadly in his backslidden condition he went politically to the left and embraced some foolish thinking.

    He actually thinks the rest of us are far right in our concepts. It's amazing what the mind of man will do without God in his worldview.
    The same happens in the other direction, doesn't it ?

    Nazism is really "national socialism" which suggests that it should belong to the left. Yet they hated Communists whose parlamentarians were among the first to be sent to the concentration camps. Both are totalitarians or need to be in order to keep running things. Both are in the black zone. I'd include anarchists there as well. Though they are anti-authoritarian by persuasion the result of applying it is typically warlordism, a fractured form of totalitarianism. Too much control or too much liberty results in totalitarianism or at best, revolution or collapse into something different (the fall of the iron curtain as an example)

    Instead of labelling all others extremists if they are different at all, one should focus on staying away from the extreme itself, that which belongs in or close to the black zone.

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    I talked to a guy in church recently who has been saved for 1 1/2 years and who used to be an extreme right wing conspiracy theorist. Not neo nazi but still the anti-semitic kind. He has problems with Pentecostal Christians being "soft" and too accomodating towards stuff that he still doesn't like. I told him that Christianity is real whereas that stuff that he was into is just a pipedream and all the toughness is just what happens when the pipedream is confronted with reality. And that relating to God as an authority is different to relating to society (or alternatively, various political principles) as an authority in His place.

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