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    Is that the master thief of the ecumenical movement, or the false grace movement?

    God warned us that there would be many false teachers who would deceive many... nobody knows which popular preachers that would be?

    Or, is everyone so concerned about their own personal popularity that they just don't want to know, much less talk about it... and if someone brings it up immediately start calling them names so the subject get's buried under that?

    No wanting to discuss what God warned us about sure supports what some are saying... that deception is spreading rapidly now.

    Jesus must be fixin to catch away the faithful who did not fall for all the false teachers / teachings

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    It's time to take God's warnings concerning false teachers in the end times seriously...

    Seriously?? Did you even watch this video? So because John MacArthur thinks Christians should be sad and sick and Joel Osteen preaches that God wants you healthy and prosperous, Osteen is a false teacher?? Sorry, I'll take Osteen's gospel over MacArthur's any day.

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    I don't recall you exposing the works of darkness coming thru his ministry... is that an upcoming post you are still working on?
    FT I said elsewhere that yes God raises up people to do such things but that's not everyone's callings. We do what we're called to do.

    GodismyJudge does what God has called GodismyJudge to do, not what you think you're called to do.

    So do it Biblically. You go to John Osteen and anyone else you feel is wrong and reveal to them where they're wrong. If they listen, good.

    If they don't then take others who can verify that you're correct. If they listen, good.

    Only then came back and tell us.

    Thanks, you should find that fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    Seriously?? Did you even watch this video? So because John MacArthur thinks Christians should be sad and sick and Joel Osteen preaches that God wants you healthy and prosperous, Osteen is a false teacher?? Sorry, I'll take Osteen's gospel over MacArthur's any day.
    Nobody cares about John MacArthur who is a false teach too... point id, mr osteen is in agreement with oprah's new age teachings along with a growing number of Christians. Jesus specifically warned us in the end times there would be many false teachers who would deceive many.

    mr osteen, oprah, and macarthur are all on the list of false teachers to avoid.

    If you claim to be a fan of mr osteen... then you agree that God accepts homosexuals just as they are, living proudly in their sin??? mr osteen believes that and says it publicly which can also be found on youtube of him speaking this in him own words, not heresay.

    True Christians are being called out of false teachings and away from false teachers now cause the great catching away of the church is very near and those caught up in deception will not be taken... left to go thru the great tribulation where most that claim to be Christians will either take the mark and be doomed to hell or be killed for their faith.

    All kinds of warnings are going out about this, but those caught up in deception will fail to heed to call...



    FunFromOz, ALL minsiters are called to teach truth. The only solution other than arguing back and forth (my scriptures can beat up your scriptures!)... is to wait and see who end up where which is what we will have to do since God warned that the time would come where they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching) even the Words of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    mr osteen, as well as many other false teachers, can be seen speaking against the teachings of God's Word such as new age practices that open the door to doctines of devils (like bethel church), as well s acceptance of those that live in open sin as being Christians like me osteen does.

    That's the down side of youtube as it takes it out of the realm of hearsay when videos of the person and what they are saying can be seen on video.

    It all comes down to which Jesus we want to follow... the Jesus of the Bible who desires to set us free from a lifestyle of sin, or the false jesus that mankind has made in the image of man that doesn't mind man's lifestyle of willingly and knowingly living a sinful lifestyle.

    Your call broman cause it's your life! Enjoy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    If you claim to be a fan of mr osteen... then you agree that God accepts homosexuals just as they are, living proudly in their sin???
    Your reply above to the site owner is outlandish considering anything she has ever said on this forum. The reasoning you apply to arrive at your usual accusation is illogical at every turn. Not that any of that should surprise anyone given your roughly three thousand posts here during the last two years or so. What you should perhaps take into account is the fact that most or maybe even all people tend to tire quickly of reading endless ramblings about "how my theology is better than that of my imaginary opponent".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Your reply above to the site owner is outlandish considering anything she has ever said on this forum previously. The reasoning you apply to arrive at your usual accusation is illogical at every turn. Not that any of that should surprise anyone given your roughly three thousand posts here during the last two years or so. What you should perhaps take into account is the fact that most or maybe even all people tend to tire of reading endless ramblings about "how my theology is better than that of my imaginary opponent".
    Those that stand up for false teachers should be warned that it is wrong.

    What is your position on those that continue in their sin... have you studied that from God's Word???

    All I'm saying is that Christians need to stand for God's Truth before standing for people that teach God's Truth in error.

    It all comes down to which Jesus we want to follow... the Jesus of the Bible who desires to set us free from a lifestyle of sin, or the false jesus that mankind has made in the image of man that doesn't mind man's lifestyle of willingly and knowingly living a sinful lifestyle.

    Your call broman cause it's your life! Enjoy...

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    I've gotten countless people saved and seen countless miracles of all kinds during the last 20 years. I've gotten several people saved, baptized in the Spirit and to change their theology a whole lot during my time online. Tell me when you've converted anyone here to anything, mr. Farm Truck.

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    FunFromOz, ALL minsiters are called to teach truth.
    Teachers are called to teach Farm Truck. People are to speak truthfully but those of us who aren't teachers can only do that, speak truthfully. We can't teach.

    My "minister" is good at running the church, good at community engagement, good at exalting, good at inspiring and encouraging, but as a doctrinal teacher: he's just not there. He also seems happy to let me conduct funerals as again that's not his area of gifting but it is mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Nobody cares about John MacArthur who is a false teach too...
    I looked at what John MacArthur teaches at https://www.gty.org/connect/doctrine FT, which of the following is false?

    • We teach that the Bible is God's written revelation to man
    • We teach that the Bible constitutes the only infallible rule of faith and practice
    • We teach that there is but one living and true God
    • We teach that God the Father, the first Person of the Trinity, orders and disposes all things according to His own purpose and grace
    • We teach that Jesus Christ, the second Person of the Trinity, possesses all the divine excellencies
    • We teach that the Holy Spirit is a divine Person, eternal, underived, possessing all the attributes of personality and deity
    • We teach that man was directly and immediately created by God in His image and likeness
    • We teach that God's intention in the creation of man was that man should glorify God
    • We teach that in Adam's sin of disobedience to the revealed will and Word of God, man lost his innocence
    • We teach that salvation is wholly of God by grace on the basis of the redemption of Jesus Christ
    • We teach that regeneration is a supernatural work of the Holy Spirit
    • We teach that justification before God is an act of God (Romans 8:33) by which He declares righteous those who, through faith in Christ, repent of their sins
    • We teach that every believer is sanctified (set apart) unto God by justification and is therefore declared to be holy and is therefore identified as a saint.
    • We teach that there is also, by the work of the Holy Spirit, a progressive sanctification by which the state of the believer is brought closer to the standing the believer positionally enjoys through justification.
    • We teach that separation from sin is clearly called for throughout the Old and New Testaments
    • We teach that all who place their faith in Jesus Christ are immediately placed by the Holy Spirit into one united spiritual Body, the church


    There's many more "We teach"s, but which of the above is false teaching?

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