Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 456
Results 51 to 53 of 53

Thread: Pioneer Training School in USA

  1. #51
    Senior Member Ezekiel 33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Northern Lower Michigan
    Posts
    3,970
    Thanked: 2924
    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    In this day and age, I don't watch too many videos and instead stick with scripture... so if you say it's good to go, then that's great to hear.

    That would make this program very unpopular and many who have gone the extreme grace route would be coming against it if they are teaching new converts to follow the teachings of Jesus... because extreme grace teaches that we should follow Paul and Paul taught a different gospel than Jesus because Jesus taught the law to the Jews so His teachings are not for the church today

    All of which are lies coming from the extreme grace crowd.
    The gospel that Paul preached was given to him straight from Jesus. He even calls it the "gospel of Christ" in verse 7, and then says that to let anyone who brings any different gospel be accursed. (Galatians 1:6-12)

    I'm not sure where you are thinking that Jesus and Paul preached separate/different gospels from each other. That would be a lie according to scripture.

    There are things that Jesus spoke to the Jews that do not pertain to the church today, but they are not the Gospel. All of Jesus' words as recorded in the 4 gospels are not the gospel of Jesus Christ which is the good news of salvation by grace working through faith in Him.

    There are times where He is rebuking the religious leaders who are still under the law, and some folks go as far as saying that He is promoting something to the church too, such as Matthew 23:23.

    Some would use this (erroneously) to teach that Jesus is saying that we(the NT church) should pay a tithe. However, there is no such teaching given to the church through any of the epistles.

    We must use context when determining what was and what wasn't for the church.

    Taking that same passage, we can determine because of the writings of the apostles that we are to exhibit justice, mercy and faith.

    So, by using proper context we can see that only part of that verse could be applied to the NT church.

    There is no way that we can ever say that Jesus and Paul taught opposing gospels.


  2. #52
    * Toxic Troll - Negative Nancy Farm Truck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    2,139
    Thanked: 675
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I'm not sure where you are thinking that Jesus and Paul preached separate/different gospels from each other. That would be a lie according to scripture.
    Hello... I'm not the one saying Paul taught a different Gospel than Jesus.

    Many of today's most popular preachers are the ones saying this.... I'm saying they are wrong, but the masses of Christians especially in western countries are buying in to these false grace teachings.

    This is why it's hard to tell Christians from the world sometimes... We need to know what is being taught out there so we can know how to reach out to those that get caught up in these false teachings.

    Jesus taught the Gospel of the Kingdom, not the law...

    Luke 16:16
    The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

    The Gospel of the Kingdom of God applies... to all that want to spend eternity with the Lord and not in hell.

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to Farm Truck For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (09-20-2016)

  4. #53
    Senior Member Ezekiel 33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Northern Lower Michigan
    Posts
    3,970
    Thanked: 2924
    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Hello... I'm not the one saying Paul taught a different Gospel than Jesus.

    Many of today's most popular preachers are the ones saying this.... I'm saying they are wrong, but the masses of Christians especially in western countries are buying in to these false grace teachings.

    This is why it's hard to tell Christians from the world sometimes... We need to know what is being taught out there so we can know how to reach out to those that get caught up in these false teachings.

    Jesus taught the Gospel of the Kingdom, not the law...

    Luke 16:16
    The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

    The Gospel of the Kingdom of God applies... to all that want to spend eternity with the Lord and not in hell.
    Then watch the video I posted and I am quite sure you will be blessed.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Has your Volkswagen CC warranty expired? Get a fast online quote from CarWarrantyUS today. Enjoy the open road and leave the repairs to us.