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If I'm going to be your presiding Bishop, you need to let me find you a church in your area
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Originally Posted by
Pentecali
If I'm going to be your presiding Bishop, you need to let me find you a church in your area
Ok, but not in the boondocks....the one you had told me about before is too far
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Without saying too much, I'll just say, I attend WOFICC via live stream on Sunday mornings. Attend RHEMA midweek service, and/or Sunday evening.
Sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do to get what we need. I give to both churches as well as the ministries that feed me spiritually. I feel this is what's best for the time being. Pray and seek the Lord, He'll let you know what you should do.
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Originally Posted by
Valiant Woman
Without saying too much, I'll just say, I attend WOFICC via live stream on Sunday mornings. Attend RHEMA midweek service, and/or Sunday evening.
Sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do to get what we need. I give to both churches as well as the ministries that feed me spiritually. I feel this is what's best for the time being. Pray and seek the Lord, He'll let you know what you should do.
Agreed, thanks.
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I found it helpful in some churches to not look at the church as being made up of their leaders and programs. I began to look at the church as the people who were there. We finally found meaning in ministry and relationships when my wife and I, and others in those churches, began to seek connections and ministry with other brothers and sisters in those churches. In many cases we simply bypassed the churches official programs, and sometimes leaders, and ministered with others. In other cases we used programs to further God's Word and love, using some programs to further the Gospel and not the leader's original intent.
Like many, I also want recognition, approval, and sometimes control. Then I began to realize that is what most bad leaders want, and I really didn't want to be like them.
Jesus said you will be blessed for something as simple as giving a thirsty person a drink of water. You bless them as well. There are many thirsty and starving people near you and in your church. All they may need is a few minutes of Christian sibling love now and then.
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Ok, I will be the one then...If Holy Spirit put you there ask Him why...if He didn't, find out where you are supposed to be...having said that I will add that 'issues' in any church are not to be the determining factor on His leading. In my opinion, church bashing is NOT the Holy Spirit...
Having said that please receive it in the spirit it was intended....the body of Christ is governed by it's HEAD and I don't think such criticisms are coming from the HEAD...
OK...I'm ready
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Originally Posted by
Quest
Ok, I will be the one then...If Holy Spirit put you there ask Him why...if He didn't, find out where you are supposed to be...having said that I will add that 'issues' in any church are not to be the determining factor on His leading. In my opinion, church bashing is NOT the Holy Spirit...
Having said that please receive it in the spirit it was intended....the body of Christ is governed by it's HEAD and I don't think such criticisms are coming from the HEAD...
OK...I'm ready
Alright Quest, I'm not gonna stone you but I will say this...I do know the difference between a church that is led by the HS versus one that isn't..(I've been in both), and IMO I wasn't "church bashing"--just telling the truth in terms of my experience. The "church bashing" accusation comes off as very defensive,and I'm not sure why that is.
I have asked the HS am I supposed to be there, and He has said yes. But that doesn't mean I can't question and point out things that are possibly "off"...and I did say a few posts back that I believe my response is to pray and be more discerning in terms of being involved. but I DO disagree with what you said regarding "issues"--Issues can be a symptom of an underlying problem...it's up to HS as to how those issues are resolved however.
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I've found it curious why expressing concern or talking problems about leadership is church bashing, but leaders who express concern or talk problems about members at large or individuals is called leadership.
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Originally Posted by
papabrett
I've found it curious why expressing concern or talking problems about leadership is church bashing, but leaders who express concern or talk problems about members at large or individuals is called leadership.
That's some good preachin' right there brother.
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