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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    You shouldn't attempt olympic weightlifting movements if you can't do a front squat, that is a core element. Though I can do a back squat with somewhere between 250 and 300 pounds, I feel uncomfortable with front squats and overhead squats with pretty much any weight.
    Doing the snatch or clean&jerk is therefore uncomfortable but doing a power clean without going down into the front squat works better.

    Is that tongues

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    No, it's an answer to a specific question about crossfit exercises which are typically based on olympic weightlifting movements. If you are half interested you should try looking up the terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    If you are half interested you should try looking up the terms.
    Too hard work to investigate.....I need another donut

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    Just remember that you are burning calories while looking for that donut. Better to employ servants to figure out when you want one and then get one for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highly Favoured View Post
    Is there an allowance if a person is unable to do one of those exercises? Can you adjust, for example, front squat to a different form of squat? I have issues with front squats with my shoulder, but can do back squats more easily.
    Yep. When I first squatted I had to squat down to an 18" box. I don't use it any more now, but if you always need to use it, not problem. I can't do pullups, I cannot lift my body weight. So I have to do a substitute there. And if there's a suggested weight, I don't normally do that weight as I'm just not that strong yet. Like the 200 meter overhead carry, I did that with a 53lb barbell. No way could I do 135lbs.

    I'm 59 and these workouts kick my rear end, but I do finish them even though it takes me longer than all those young whippersnappers. :)

    A lot of them will let you go free for a day. Mine let me do a week free to test it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    So far Fuego has managed to work his entire body including his spinal erectors but not his back. Doing pullups with bands or barbell rows would fix that.
    Speaking of that, I could really feel the weight in my back when doing the overhead carry. But I agree with you. I don't get enough chest/back work. So I was thinking once a week after my workout, adding some chest/back work. We do chest workouts, but haven't done any in a few weeks. I need to do more.

    I tell you what, after one of those workouts you don't feel like doing anything esle. But I have noticed that I recover pretty quickly. So go get me a little breakfast after the workout on Friday and then come back and do the extra weightlifting. : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Yep. When I first squatted I had to squat down to an 18" box. I don't use it any more now, but if you always need to use it, not problem. I can't do pullups, I cannot lift my body weight. So I have to do a substitute there. And if there's a suggested weight, I don't normally do that weight as I'm just not that strong yet. Like the 200 meter overhead carry, I did that with a 53lb barbell. No way could I do 135lbs.
    135 lbs overhead carry, I don't think I could do that for 200 meters. Would wobble myself into the ground eventually.

    Pullups with bands (you could use several) :


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    You shouldn't attempt olympic weightlifting movements if you can't do a front squat, that is a core element. Though I can do a back squat with somewhere between 250 and 300 pounds, I feel uncomfortable with front squats and overhead squats with pretty much any weight.
    Doing the snatch or clean&jerk is therefore uncomfortable but doing a power clean without going down into the front squat works better.
    I have no problem with front squats at all. But I can't back squat with near your weight. I'm 59 and I just stay within my limitations and am slowly building up weight. I think my max back squat so far is maybe 115lbs for 12 reps.

    Overhead squats I can barely do with a 33lb bar. Or should I say could. I might be able to do a little more now as we haven't done those in awhile. They say that is really the most complex/hardest one to do. Those are tough.

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    It's not a strength problem with me, it's a leverage problem. I have long legs and even in a front squat I lean so much forward that holding a substantial weight up to my chin requires a lot of shoulder work and discomfort. I could possibly do front squats with some sort of harness that I can place the bar on. Overhead squats work the same way, the bar would travel way behind me and would require a ridiculous amount of shoulder flexibility to pull off. Long legs and arms helps with doing deadlifts however. That is easily my best lift though I don't do them any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Speaking of that, I could really feel the weight in my back when doing the overhead carry. But I agree with you. I don't get enough chest/back work. So I was thinking once a week after my workout, adding some chest/back work. We do chest workouts, but haven't done any in a few weeks. I need to do more.

    I tell you what, after one of those workouts you don't feel like doing anything esle. But I have noticed that I recover pretty quickly. So go get me a little breakfast after the workout on Friday and then come back and do the extra weightlifting. : )
    Dips and pullups with bands is excellent groundwork and maybe you can get to where you can do them without the bands eventually. Or dips and kipping pullups which is what crossfitters typically do. The olympic lifts work the shoulders a lot.

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