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    Does God do Evil? (Part 1)

    Does God do Evil? (Part 1)
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    April 16

    Does God do Evil? (Part 1)

    Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it? Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. (Amos 3:6-7)

    As we study the Bible carefully we learn that God is often said to do the thing that He allowed to occur after He has removed His protection from a person or nation. However, this protection is only removed when the person or nation has removed themselves from His protection. God persistently begs and pleads with people to return to Him before He finally and reluctantly "gives them up."

    Before He speaks about His responsibility for the evil done in a city God asks, "You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" (Amos 2:2-3). Due to their constant sinning Israel was not in agreement with God and therefore was not walking with God. Like every other passage of this type, Amos 3:6 is permissive in that God is allowing men the consequences of their choices.

    Commenting on Isa. 45:7, Amos 3:6, and other passages that contribute evil to God, Daniel Waterland writes, "God sees fit to execute vengeance he unties the hands of wicked men and lets them loose to commit all uncleanness and iniquity with greediness. He withdraws his protecting arm for a time from those whom he has once determined to chastize."[1] Some of the church Fathers such as Irenaeus (125-202 AD) agree:

    "Upon all those who separate themselves from Him, God inflicts the separation that they have chosen. Now separation from God is death; separation from light is darkness; separation from God means the loss of all good things that come from Him."[2]

    The Lord "does evil" by removing His protection from those who reject Him. Stay in Christ and remain protected.

    Notes
    1. Waterland, Daniel "A Thanksgiving Sermon" The Works of the Reverend Daniel Waterland (Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1843), p. 452
    2. Quoted by Faryna, Rev. Deacon Michael The Theology of Illness and Death, https://www.umanitoba.ca/colleges/st...naArticle.html (Last accessed: Dec. 19, 2012).
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    The Word says He will trouble those that trouble you so... yeah, in defense of His people and His own interests he can do what some people would call evil... but to Him it's justified.

    Of course mercy rejoices against judgement, but read over in the Book of Revelation and we will see God doing some stuff that most Christians cannot handle even thinking about.

    It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, so smart people abide under the shadow of the Almighty and accept his leading / correction. (Heb 12)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    The Word says He will trouble those that trouble you so... yeah, in defense of His people and His own interests he can do what some people would call evil... but to Him it's justified.

    Of course mercy rejoices against judgement, but read over in the Book of Revelation and we will see God doing some stuff that most Christians cannot handle even thinking about.

    It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, so smart people abide under the shadow of the Almighty and accept his leading / correction. (Heb 12)
    Thanks for your input FT. Though I would probably interpret the passages you gave in the light of the "permissive sense" revelation.
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    Does God Do Evil (Part 2)
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    Just came back from a long day of very wonderful ministry but I am tired. Don't feel like taking the time to copy, paste and format part 2. So if anyone is interested in part 2 just click on the link above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Thanks for your input FT. Though I would probably interpret the passages you gave in the light of the "permissive sense" revelation.
    Yes, ultimately it is permissive considering God created us in His image and He gave us dominion so reaping what we sow is inescapable according to Gal 6:7,8.

    But, this is His creation and He has every right to purge it from all evil... and sadly, those that insist on being in agreement with evil will have to be eliminated since there is no darkness in God. At some point darkness will be destroyed and many will be on the wrong side of the Lord and will learn what Matthew 6:23 means first hand after it is too late for them.

    But, I wouldn't want to argue with anyone... that wouldn't "be in love", even though it may wake someone up so they study for themselves and possibly recover themselves from the snare of the devil and be spared eternity in hell.

    Some must think Jesus was not "walking in Love" the day he turned over the table in the temple or when he told the religious folks they were of their father the devil. Anyone who speaks up for Truth (the Word of Love Himself) is not walking in love according to a growing number of those that claim to be Christians.

    Just another sign of the end times...

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