Thread: Reasons To Not Buy Electric Cars

Originally Posted by John

Yeah, the buy here, pay here guys have that tool. The biggest reason for repos, non-payment is lack of cash to repair vehicle, most can handle the payment but if the car breaks ... nope.

The proper term is 'tote your note' lot. lol.

Seriously, being an engine fanatic is a no-brainer. If you don't put gas in it, doesn't have sparkugs...I'm ready to leave earth.

Originally Posted by Highly Favoured

On the other hand - hybrids (gas/electric) are great! I went to the far western U.P., a trip of over 550 miles on about 10-11 gallons of gas. These cars aren't plugged in - but generate power to a battery which powers the car in specific circumstances.

Yes, but the price of the car is much higher.

So, how are we really saving if we're being price gouged?

Here you go:

A Wall Street Journal reporter took an electric vehicle on a road trip. It did not go well. After the disaster, she wrote, "[Gasoline] fumes never smelled so sweet."

WSJ Electric Vehicle Road Trip a Disaster

The Wall Street Journal reported this weekend on a four-day road trip from New Orleans to Chicago and back in an electric vehicle (EV) that ended up as a disaster — one that left the author grateful for her ordinary car, even at today's high gas price...

WSJ Electric Vehicle Road Trip a Disaster

Originally Posted by Pentecali

Yes, but the price of the car is much higher.

So, how are we really saving if we're being price gouged?

I don't know about pricing. I've had my Insight (hybrid) for a few years. It was comparable to an SUV, and I was trading in and paying cash. Right now, yes, prices of everything are skyrocketing. We've entered into a huge inflationary cycle that is affecting the price of everything. Gas, groceries, durable goods, etc.

Originally Posted by fuego

Here you go:

A Wall Street Journal reporter took an electric vehicle on a road trip. It did not go well. After the disaster, she wrote, "[Gasoline] fumes never smelled so sweet."

WSJ Electric Vehicle Road Trip a Disaster

The Wall Street Journal reported this weekend on a four-day road trip from New Orleans to Chicago and back in an electric vehicle (EV) that ended up as a disaster — one that left the author grateful for her ordinary car, even at today's high gas price...

WSJ Electric Vehicle Road Trip a Disaster

The charging stations can sometimes be few and far between with long lines when you get there. In some areas the stations have also become a magnet for criminals that prey on the drivers. Everything about it pretty much screams "leftist".

Originally Posted by FireBrand

If you have an iphone, google can reveal everywhere you have been. Quite a history they have on us.

Can't you turn off location tracking, remove the battery, or place the phone in a Farraday bag? (Also, good idea to turn off the phone's Wifi.)

Edit: Sorry, I just realized you can't remove the battery!!!

When my current all-gasoline car dies, I'll definitely consider a hybrid, probably a Prius for its reliability. Hybrids provide the best of both worlds, in my view.

There's an EV charging station near the complex where I live, and it's a sad thing to see people sitting in their cars for hours waiting for their cars to get charged up. What a waste of time.

Another issue with EVs: battery disposal.

The battery pack of a Tesla Model S is a feat of intricate engineering. Thousands of cylindrical cells with components sourced from around the world transform lithium and electrons into enough energy to propel the car hundreds of kilometers, again and again, without tailpipe emissions. But when the battery comes to the end of its life, its green benefits fade. If it ends up in a landfill, its cells can release problematic toxins, including heavy metals. And recycling the battery can be a hazardous business, warns materials scientist Dana Thompson of the University of Leicester. Cut too deep into a Tesla cell, or in the wrong place, and it can short-circuit, combust, and release toxic fumes.

That's just one of the many problems confronting researchers, including Thompson, who are trying to tackle an emerging problem: how to recycle the millions of electric vehicle (EV) batteries that manufacturers expect to produce over the next few decades. Current EV batteries "are really not designed to be recycled," says Thompson, a research fellow at the Faraday Institution, a research center focused on battery issues in the United Kingdom.

That wasn't much of a problem when EVs were rare. But now the technology is taking off. Several carmakers have said they plan to phase out combustion engines within a few decades, and industry analysts predict at least 145 million EVs will be on the road by 2030, up from just 11 million last year. "People are starting to realize this is an issue," Thompson says.

Governments are inching toward requiring some level of recycling. In 2018, China imposed new rules aimed at promoting the reuse of EV battery components. The European Union is expected to finalize its first requirements this year. In the United States, the federal government has yet to advance recycling mandates, but several states, including California—the nation's largest car market—are exploring setting their own rules.

Complying won't be easy. Batteries differ widely in chemistry and construction, which makes it difficult to create efficient recycling systems. And the cells are often held together with tough glues that make them difficult to take apart. That has contributed to an economic obstacle: It's often cheaper for battery makers to buy freshly mined metals than to use recycled materials.

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