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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    Yes, so then tithe, because He said to.
    That's what your missing sis. He said it to those who were still under the Old Covenant. It was before His death, burial and resurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    So who is desiring that "you prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers?" 3 John 1:2
    John is. Look at the context:
    3 John
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    Greeting to Gaius

    1 The Elder,

    To the beloved Gaius, whom I love in truth:

    2 Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers. 3 For I rejoiced greatly when brethren came and testified of the truth that is in you, just as you walk in the truth. 4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
    Also, I'm not sure which translation you are using, but I looked at a few different ones and none of them used the word desire. But anyhoo, it is John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    The older I get, the more determined I am to stay away from strife, even with stingy, non-tithers!
    No strife here sis. Just brothers and sisters having a lively doctrinal discussion. This is not something that I would ever let come between us, it's just a good quality discussion with like minded believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    That right there. That response should end the debate. You can't reason with someone with that mentality. They will never change their position ni matter how much evidence is provided.
    What, someone who doesn't easily go along with someone taking a ministry gift and using it as some kind of authority title?


    I guess I'm in company with Paul, the actual apostle and with Jesus:
    2 Corinthians 11:12-14
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    12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
    Revelation 2:19-21
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    19 "I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first. 20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    How about Arch bishop?
    Presiding preplate? Chief apostle? Master prophet?

    No kidding, I've heard AND seen everyone of these titles used including a Bishop in California who is called "Your Eminence" and "Your Grace" .. I could go on but this is off topic I know. Carry on church.
    From the land of fruit and nuts!

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    Tithing: The Gift of Tithing
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    Tithing: The Gift of Tithing
    One afternoon, just after I turned 30, I decided it was time to finally read the Bible--the whole Bible--cover-to-cover, Genesis straight through Revelation, no matter how long it took. Excited and often challenged by what I was learning, I eagerly shared my newfound knowledge with my husband, who wasn't nearly as interested in listening as I was in speaking. However, he patiently endured until I broached the subject of tithing.

    "Is that 10% of gross or net?" he asked, slightly annoyed.

    "Gross," I replied. "I'm pretty sure God comes before taxes."

    "Do you have any idea how much money that is?"

    Well, no, actually I didn't. The conversation quickly ended with, "You can give as much to church each week as we spend on entertainment." It wasn't a tithe, but it was a start.

    Putting Out a Fleece
    Months later, Tony walked in from work in the middle of the afternoon with a large cardboard box in his arms. "I lost my job today," he said. "It's time we started tithing."

    "You lost your job and you want to tithe now?"

    "Yes, now. Off my severance check."

    I could barely speak. I think I stopped breathing. I definitely couldn't believe what I was hearing. We had no income, no insurance, two young sons, and a baby daughter on the way.

    What a time to test God.

    Yet that's exactly what my husband was doing. Like Gideon in the Old Testament, Tony needed assurance--tangible, unmistakable proof that God is as good as His Word--and for him, there was no better time to begin. So my husband threw out his fleece--ten percent of his severance check--and waited.

    We Can't Out-Give God
    God's response was immediate and abundant, if somewhat overwhelming. Unexpected refund and rebate checks began arriving in our mailbox, so many of them that we wondered what God would possibly do next. We continued to tithe off every dollar that came in, and it didn't take us long to discover that we simply couldn't out-give God. The more we gave, the more He poured into our laps, "a good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over" (Luke 6:38).

    We were hooked.

    Over the years, we've learned that tithing wasn't the ultimate object of that lesson; biblical giving was. Second Corinthians 8:14 says, "At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. Then there will be equality."

    That's why we give.

    God gives to us so that we can give to others. We are blessed to be a blessing, conduits of God's grace, mercy and abundant love to one another. Giving isn't about a set percent, and it's not about what we can do, but about what God can and will do through us when we're willing.

    "'Test me in this,' says the Lord Almighty, 'and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it'" (Malachi 3:10).

    It's been nearly twenty years since we started tithing. We've welcomed five children into this world, my husband has changed jobs several times, we've moved and moved again, we've entered the college years (our oldest will graduate this May), and our feet have walked the path of long-term illness with four of our five teens...and me. Through it all, God has remained faithful. As we have continued to tithe, God has stretched our capacity to give. Again and again. And again.

    Tithing isn't an obligation, but a gift. A lavish gift.
    That my God, who needs nothing, would offer me the opportunity, the freedom, the privilege to give, to join with Him in providing for His people is remarkable.

    That He would trust me that much is amazing.

    And humbling. Deeply, perfectly, beautifully, only God, humbling.

    For only God could extend such graceā€”a gift that blesses the giver perhaps even more than the receiver.

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    This post originally appeared on Cindee's blog, and was submitted as part of our community linkup for the theme: Tithing.
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