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    January 6: A legacy of troubling questions

    January 6: A Legacy of Troubling Questions

    The voluminous media coverage in the weeks leading up to the one-year anniversary of Jan. 6 demonstrates the substantial and growing divide between Americans of differing political stripes. The prevailing narrative is that supporters of Trump, whipped into a frenzy by his Jan. 6 speech at the Ellipse, descended on the U.S. Capitol in a violent attempt to upend democracy.

    A large crowd of Trump supporters—estimates ranged from 30,000 on the low end to 2 million on the high end—crowded the Ellipse to hear the president rail against the 2020 presidential election. Trump contended, along with millions of supporters, that widespread election fraud in key states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin had robbed him of a second term and placed Democrat Joe Biden in an illegitimate presidency.

    The speech started approximately an hour later than scheduled. Well before Trump concluded his remarks, a group of protesters breached a lightly guarded barrier on the Capitol's pedestrian walkway. They quickly headed for the Capitol building. By the time the throngs of rally-goers made the long walk to the Capitol grounds, the perimeter fencing and security signs indicating the site was restricted had been methodically removed.

    As tens of thousands of protesters surrounded the Capitol, pockets of violence broke out. Windows were broken, and protesters climbed inside, just after 2 p.m. At other entrances, protesters found doors propped open and proceeded inside like tourists.

    The circumstances of the worst violence are hotly contested, but the results were real. Trump supporter Ashli Babbitt, 35, was shot and killed by a Capitol Police officer as she attempted to enter the Speaker's Lobby. White and others were beaten by police in or near the West Terrace tunnel, attorneys say.

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    I really hate that conservatives conceded the high ground to the liberals. I think there was a belief that since the liberals were rioting and getting away with it all over the country, that we had to play their game. When we did, it was a set up. I remember when George Bush was in office. I would get so upset when I would hear the left out and out LIE about things he said and did. I really wanted him to defend himself and he never did. With Trump, we had the opposite and I realized why Bush never spoke back. Because he would have been eviscerated in the media and the government. As long as they can throw around words like, "racist" "nazi" "fascist" with no repercussions, then that candidate is destroyed. It's a double standard, but still the standard. Although I think that overall, Trump did good things for the economy, foreign policy and put decent (not great!) jurists on the supreme court, he was wrong about thinking he could fight the government machine. Our representatives are not our representatives, they are not the swamp. The swamp is much deeper than we think. We've been doing this backwards. If a President wants to "drain the swamp" he needs to fire the rank and file. They are NOT non-partisan.

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    I believe "we the people" have to get involved and drain the swamp from the bottom up. Start at your local level. Investigate. Attend meetings. A group here started doing that and found such corruption at our local level that it's mind boggling. And consider being a candidate and run for your local government whether it's city council, school boards or whatever.

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    I believe "we the people" have to get involved and drain the swamp from the bottom up. Start at your local level. Investigate. Attend meetings. A group here started doing that and found such corruption at our local level that it's mind boggling. And consider being a candidate and run for your local government whether it's city council, school boards or whatever.
    Agreed! Baltimore City has a prosecutor who gained notoriety for prosecuting the police officers involved with the Freddie Gray trial. She refuses to do her job, she's totally corrupt, she refuses to allow one of our news agencies access to her press conferences! She is also married to the City Council President! How is that even allowed? Our Governor is tired of Baltimore City's Crap and called her out. Now she's having press conferences accusing him of racism.

    Check out this story, a woman's home was torched by her ex-boyfriend. For a man charged with several felonies, including 3 counts of attempted murder, he was allowed to plea down to 1 arson charge and was let out of jail after six months. Now she is receiving threatening texts from him and asked for a protective order and she's being told nothing can be done. While I agree with you, that it all start locally, I'm telling you it makes no difference if I vote. Even the school board is appointed by the mayor, citizens no longer get to vote. Baltimore City is beyond rigged! There is nothing that the citizens can do other than move out.

    Here's the story if you're interested: Victim's story sparks questions about plea deals offered in Baltimore City | WBFF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highly Favoured View Post
    I believe "we the people" have to get involved and drain the swamp from the bottom up. Start at your local level. Investigate. Attend meetings. A group here started doing that and found such corruption at our local level that it's mind boggling. And consider being a candidate and run for your local government whether it's city council, school boards or whatever.
    Yes. When Pompeo looked into it he found that the Chinese were running influence campaigns at the school board level. We need to bounce anyone with a whiff of the globalist agenda. The notion that we are "top down" is flawed, a perfect example is how states are handling the plandemic (FL vs. NY). State and local politics matter a lot more than most think.

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