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    The only true Hope for America is Christ and Him crucified. I have been praying for 2 specific things:
    1. Revival in the church.
    2. An Awakening in America as a result of revival in the church.


    Without these 2 things happening, America as we know and love it is done. Satan and his hordes have almost completely taken over our government.
    Revelation 18:2-3 are resonating in my spirit concerning America, whether or not we are Babylon the Great, these verses describe us to a "T".

    "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
    She has become a dwelling place of demons,
    a haunt for every unclean spirit,
    and a haunt for every unclean and hateful bird.
    For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her sexual immorality,
    the kings of the earth have committed adultery with her,
    and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury."

    Like I said, I am not saying that we are "Babylon the Great", but those 2 verses describe exactly what is going on in America right now. Especially our Government.
    Our government has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt for every unclean spirit. You can see it written on the countenance of those who fill the halls of the capitol buildings.
    I totally believe that the Constitution was inspired by God, as it only came into existence after prayer and fasting of the writers. And this is why satan hates America.
    This is why satan is using communism to bring down America from within. The demonic puppets running our nation are his vessels for unrighteousness.
    The only hope we have is Revival in the church and an Awakening in the nation. How I would love to stand in the chambers of our nation and preach the gospel to them.
    They need to hear another message like "Sinners in the hands of an angry God". They need to acknowledge the blood of innocents on their hands and realize that they are heading for judgement and taking the whole nation with them.

    This is the church's fault. Why? Because we have not been about the Father's business of making disciples for the past 200 years! If we had, our nation would not look like it does today. Society and the government would be filled with a high percentage of disciples of Jesus Christ and the whole nation would look a lot different.

    We all need to fast and pray for the church to wake up and trim their lamps. We need to make disciples and proclaim the righteousness of God throughout our nation.
    Not sure we haven't already passed the tipping point, but with God nothing is impossible. But it starts with the church, and so far we are seeing much more apostasy than revival in the American church. Lord help us!

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    I don't think there is a cult of Trump. I think the American people who support him just appreciate that he has an "America First" policy. Had he engaged in same old globalism, open borders, etc there would be no Trump fans.

    The "cult" nonsense is just a clever way to smear his agenda.

    Truth be told we need few hundred Trumps in Congress, people who will represent us and not China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I don't think there is a cult of Trump. I think the American people who support him just appreciate that he has an "America First" policy. Had he engaged in same old globalism, open borders, etc there would be no Trump fans.

    The "cult" nonsense is just a clever way to smear his agenda.

    Truth be told we need few hundred Trumps in Congress, people who will represent us and not China.
    I totally agree with this bro. I love President Trump. He is my favorite president ever. I love his absolute Patriotism.
    But if you take an honest look at many in the church, many of them were/are looking for the second coming of Trump to save them more than they are looking for the 2nd coming of Jesus, and they get angry at anyone who tries to point that out to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Another article that should be read along with the OP:

    It Is Time to Take Our Focus Off of Trump
    Michael BrownMichael Brown|Posted: Feb 16, 2021 9:32 AM

    I don't know what former President Trump's future may hold or what his political aspirations may be. But I do know this: I will not be focused on his every move. I will not be looking to him to revamp the Republican Party or save America. And while it is possible he will do much good for both his party and the nation in the days ahead, I suggest that we take our focus off Donald Trump. It is time to move on.

    Again, I'm neither discounting nor inviting another Trump run in 2024. Instead, my emphasis is on the word "focus."

    Trump has been at the center of many of our lives for the last five years, and not just politically.

    He has been the subject of many a family discussion (not to mention divided quite a few families, too). He has filled our news feeds. He has dominated our social media pages. He has flooded our TV screens.

    But elections are over. The impeachment trial has ended. Trump is not front and center in the news. Now is the perfect to move on. The spell of Trumpmania has been broken.

    There is life beyond Trump, politics beyond Trump, economic challenges beyond Trump, immigration issues beyond Trump, culture wars beyond Trump, international problems (and solutions) beyond Trump.

    And, from a spiritual standpoint, a thousand times over, there is life – and ministry and calling and service and all kinds of fruitful activity – beyond Trump.

    That's why I tweeted, "I don't know what former President Trump's future political plans are, and it's way too early to talk about 2024. But this much I can say for sure: the focus of my life is on the Second Coming of Christ, not the second coming of Trump. Only One has preeminence in my heart."

    To be clear, I do not claim to be a political pundit. My commentary on political issues is devoted to the intersection between politics, culture, morality, and spirituality.

    Others can offer sage advice on what is best for the future of the Republican Party. Others can envision what role for Trump is best.

    What I can say is that, from a spiritual perspective in particular, Trump has been a great distraction (and for that, I blame us, not him). Perhaps you're recognizing that now?

    In the past, as fellow-believers, we used to debate points of doctrine. Instead, for the last five years, we have debated Trump.

    Our social media pages were once filled with scripture citations and inspirational quotes. For the last five years, they have been filled with stories about Trump and the latest political news.

    And has any gospel issue held our attention and received our fervent prayers the way the last election did?

    Obviously, not everyone falls into these categories. I say "us" in a broad, generic way, not a comprehensive or exacting way.

    But the fact is that many of us did, in fact, lose our focus. We got off track. We allowed secondary and tertiary issues, however important they may be, to become the primary issues.

    Draining the swamp became more important than preaching the gospel.

    Winning the election became more important than winning the lost.


    It Is Time to Take Our Focus Off of Trump by Michael Brown
    Another strawman article if you ask me . There is a reason why Paul said Firstly to pray for all men, kings and those in authority .. thus underlining the PRIMARY importance and role of Government in our ability to propagate the gospel. Likewise he said Pray that the Word of the Lord will have free course(In further reference to persecution form govt authorities)

    We are focused on Trump not just because we like Trump but because we believe Trump is key to revival and ensuring that the Word of the Lord have free course not only in America but across the globe.

    There is a reason why Satan hated Trump with such intensity . That alone should tell every right thinking believer that this is a Key strategic battle for kingdoms purposes .


    If we forget Trump whom has the hand of the Lord Upon him as "Blowhard Brown" counsels then we may very well lose a generation like the Chidren of Israel whom had to wait in the desert for forty years when they could have entered in Two Years

    furthermore the bible teaches Fervency in the things we seek so I believe the intense focus on Trump by believers is a result of this fervency

    Articles like this are ultimately long on Wind but short on Substance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I totally agree with this bro. I love President Trump. He is my favorite president ever. I love his absolute Patriotism.
    But if you take an honest look at many in the church, many of them were/are looking for the second coming of Trump to save them more than they are looking for the 2nd coming of Jesus, and they get angry at anyone who tries to point that out to them.
    So, Trump is Lord for these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    So you think Biden legally won the election because of Trump's tweets & comments?
    Not really, but there were a lot of moving parts. There was the constant character assasination of Trump, there was Trump retweeting tweets he shouldn't have. There was COVID and the riots over the summer. Trump's positions were poorly communication (not all his fault, the media was not on his side) The cowardly position of McConnell and other RINOs, Republicans are NEVER as united as Democrats are and that is their weakness. Trump should have focused more on COVID and rebuilding the economy. I think he lost the independents and some of the more liberal Republicans. I think he worked too much with his base without reaching out to the other side. When he was first elected, I thought that might have been his strength as a business man, but I realized that the government just doesn't work as a business, they only work in their own best interests.

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    No, he is not Lord for these people. But they are looking to him to "save" America. Their behavior towards him is cultish. I think that is what Dr. Brown was trying to convey.

    I absolutely love what President Trump did for us. Too bad that the satan inspired so called president Biden is undoing all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    No, he is not Lord for these people. But they are looking to him to "save" America. Their behavior towards him is cultish. I think that is what Dr. Brown was trying to convey.

    I absolutely love what President Trump did for us. Too bad that the satan inspired so called president Biden is undoing all of it.
    Well, that's good news, I'm pretty sure no one really worships Trump anymore than they do their favorite quarterback. No one is calling out the Tom Brady cult even though many Christians sit in front of the TV and cheer on the team, but that's a whole different topic, sports idols.

    I'm still holding to "this is an attack on Trump supporters". There are many political streams in the church, what's the big deal about Trump and how "dangerous" he can be to our souls..

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