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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Dr. Lester Sumrall's free teaching web site and all of his teaching and preaching products (cd's DVD's) have been removed from public access because some person has filed a legal injunction for a percentage of the money that the LeSEA ministry would receive from the sale of his products. What rock did this slithering snake come out of?https://drlestersumrall.com/FBC-Pres...s-Continue.pdf
    I don't know if this is under the same category or similar, but there are people out there that dispute patents for products they have nothing to do with. It is hoped that the company just settles for 50k or whatever it is the scumbags want since fighting them will be so costly. I read an article about one CEO who decided to fight back. Can't remember the outcome though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    .... I still believe that every one that came to know Jesus thru someone's ministry are still saved.
    I don't have a problem with that. Samson was greatly anointed by God and committing sexual immorality.
    The people respond and God accepts their faith as they listen to the Word.

    Eventually the sin will expose and destroy them if they don't repent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Are you aware there are people making their mission in life seeking out people like Ravi Zacharias, Todd Wagner, John McAuthur, and many others to destroy their ministry and testimony.

    No doubt satan will inspire some people to attack leaders who are innocent and try to destroy them and the church needs to discern the true from the false.
    Expose the liars where they are slandering with false accusations against church leaders.


    On the other hand some leaders hide behind their position and title. I knew a christian lady whose daughter was molested by the pastor she trusted. He went to prison.
    There are other cases of horrible acts by leaders. I prayed for a man who loved his pastor and trusted him and one day his pastor pressured him into a homosexual act.

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    No doubt satan will inspire some people to attack leaders who are innocent and try to destroy them and the church needs to discern the true from the false.
    Expose the liars where they are slandering with false accusations against church leaders.


    On the other hand some leaders hide behind their position and title. I knew a christian lady whose daughter was molested by the pastor she trusted. He went to prison.
    There are other cases of horrible acts by leaders. I prayed for a man who loved his pastor and trusted him and one day his pastor pressured him into a homosexual act.

    The gift of discerning of spirits protected the early church from people that were trying to fool leadership with their hypocrisy. In this day of "don't judge anyone for anything" we are seeing deception on steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I don't know if this is under the same category or similar, but there are people out there that dispute patents for products they have nothing to do with. It is hoped that the company just settles for 50k or whatever it is the scumbags want since fighting them will be so costly. I read an article about one CEO who decided to fight back. Can't remember the outcome though.
    Well, apparently, LeSEA (F.B.C.) are not going to take this and "lay over" without a fight, and rightly so. The old saying "turn over in your grave" would probably include Dr. Sumrall if he knew this was going on. They are going to litigation according to the press release and I pray God gives them the victory over this "bloodsucker" who is attempting to use the courts to extract money from Dr. Sumrall's life work.
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    No doubt satan will inspire some people to attack leaders who are innocent and try to destroy them and the church needs to discern the true from the false.
    Expose the liars where they are slandering with false accusations against church leaders.


    On the other hand some leaders hide behind their position and title. I knew a christian lady whose daughter was molested by the pastor she trusted. He went to prison.
    There are other cases of horrible acts by leaders. I prayed for a man who loved his pastor and trusted him and one day his pastor pressured him into a homosexual act.
    That brings to remembrance Bishop Earl Paulk.
    I saw him on TBN back in the late 90's and something registered in my spirit that something was not right about him.
    Well, that check turned out to be correct because he was involved in sexual immorality in his church.
    He even went as far to tell his victims that in order to be saved, they would have to have sex with him.
    Paulk died of cancer in 2007. I'd hate to be in his shoes when he stands before the judgment seat of Christ.
    Megachurch leader in mega-sized sex scandal
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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