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    Is Obama at War With Us

    -This is an article written by Mario Murillo. I dare you to read it. It is a clear and bold call to the real church to arise and oppose the things that are killing our country. I shared it on my social networks but realized it is far more worthy of a greater audience and readership than my own networks could give it.

    I received permission from him personally to share it here. It may be the most important and timely article you can read concerning present day America and the church. When I read it, I felt an immediate connection to the Spirit of its words, much like when Jonathan's soul was knit to David's after his mighty victory against Goliath and the Philistines (1 Sam. 18:1).

    Picture this. David is escorted before King Saul by Abner, the commander of Israel's army. He is still a teenager—small, baby-faced, and wet behind the ears, but in his hand he is carrying the head of Goliath—the head that he had just severed from his body using Goliath's own sword. Jonathan is listening to David responding to King Saul's questions, while holding that big giant head in his tiny hand.

    Can you see it? Jonathan is stirred from within. He identifies with the brave warrior spirit in David. "I like this boy," he utters from within. "I like his attitude," he muses. "I love his courageous spirit!" his heart exclaims. This is a picture of what needs to happen with 400,000 Protestant preachers in America right now.

    The battle of the Philistines is the kind of battle America is in today. Our nation is in a gigantic crisis. Most Christians are scared and don't believe they can do anything. Most pastors and Christian leaders are afraid to speak out against the Goliath in the White House. Only those who are of another spirit and whose hearts are knit together by an allegiance to the Lord of hosts and the covenant our forefathers made with Him in establishing our nation will be able to fight in this battle.

    Now please read Mario's message carefully and prayerfully and allow it to ignite your heart for the battle that rages.

    This article is not about Obama. He is mentioned in it. He is accused in it—he is the villain of it—but it is not about him. This article is about you and me. It is about facing the most horrible fact—we have had to face—since the Civil War.

    The man who occupies the White House is at war with us. He is not at war against ISIS. He is not at war against black poverty. He is not at war against unemployment. He is not at war against anything that threatens you. He is at war with you.
    The man who has the most power over Americans is actively working to destroy Americans. That is a bitter pill to swallow—but swallow it we must.

    But how do I convince you that he is at war against us? I struggled with this for a long time. Then I found an analogy that explains Obama's destructive style. He acts like a man that has murdered his wife and is trying to cover it up.

    The husband is always the first suspect—no matter what. Detectives use a different set of eyes than you and I. The adoring faithful husband is defended by family, friends and neighbors. He has the perfect alibi. He has no history of violence.

    However, the police will not rule him out if he begins to act strangely. Say, he shows little sense of loss. He talks more about himself than he does his dead wife. If she is missing, he seems to be going through the motions of trying to find her.

    Obama's reaction to the mass murder in Paris is a perfect example. It is the same, tired, brain-numbing non response to terror. He is sorry, but not really. He keeps up the appearance of a caring husband who—having done away with his wife—feigns sorrow. He has done this after every terror attack.

    Sherlock Holmes said, "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" When you eliminate the impossible about Obama here is what is left: He is motivated by hate. He hates America. He hates Christianity. He hates Israel.

    All of his policies carry this one universal criterion: How much it will damage the people I hate. Use that formula and all of the lights will suddenly go on. He blocks energy independence, a secure border, a jobs program or anything else that would better our lives.

    His foreign, environmental, economic, immigration, and educational, policies fail by design—not incompetence. He ruined our healthcare, enflames racial division, foments student unrest, and endangers the lives of police officers by design.

    He bullies Israel but gives billions to her mortal enemies.

    Here is what is really chilling: Even after it was proven that the killers in Paris were Syrian refugees, he will still force us to take in 100,000 Syrian refugees. Is he actually working toward terrorism here at home?

    We should stop doing these things:

    1. Stop denying that he is at war against you and your children's future. Face it! How can you do what Christ wants you to do against this evil if you will not admit the evil?

    We cannot stop Obama unless we face the fact that he is at war with us. All God-fearing, freedom-loving people must unify against him. The unity and resolve required to stop him can come only after we face the ugly truth.

    2. Quit saying all we need to do is pray. Of course we need to pray. I intercede daily. But to say that all we need to do is pray is a cop out. If you believe that the sole response to Obama should be prayer, then you are doing a disservice—not only to America—but to prayer. Prayer always ends in acts of obedience.

    No one ever prayed like Jesus. No one ever understood prayer like Jesus. No one valued prayer like Jesus. And yet, He did not just pray. He went forth in the power of the Spirit. He rebuked the king—He turned over the tables of the money changers and He verbally blistered the Pharisees. He did not just pray—He acted on His prayers.

    In Acts 4:29 Peter prayed "Lord look on their threats and grant to your servants that with all boldness we may speak Your Word." Try this the next time you pray—Ask for boldness and guidance. Ask to know your place in stopping the war on Israel, Christianity and everything that made America great. After you pray ... you have to take a stand.

    3. Stop supporting Christian compromise. Why your pastor refuses to preach against the crimes of Obama is not the question—why you still attend that church is the question.
    Your time, talent and money should not be going to the compromised church. Shift your support. Begin to strengthen the arm of those who are risking all to oppose this tyrant.

    4. Stop abusing love. It is not hateful to oppose Obama—it is love. To be silent in face of hatred is hatred itself. When we remain silent, we do not practice love; we hate God's Word; we hate holiness; we hate truth; we hate sacrifice and courage.
    Stop worrying about what millennials think. Stop worrying about our public persona. When the truth comes out, a grateful generation will thank us for intervening against destruction.

    5. Quit saying "I am not going to do anything because it won't make any difference." Revivals can be traced to a single person. Do not say that great movements cannot begin with small groups in unpromising circumstances. Indeed, that is exactly how all great movements have been born.

    You have come to the kingdom for such a time as this. You cannot waste one more moment in fear or self-pity. God can take your simple prayer and willingness and add His amazing power and wisdom to your endeavors.

    What if God has been waiting a hundred years for you to come along—discard fear and doubt—take up the sword of the Lord—and plunge it into the heart of spiritual darkness?

    http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/...at-war-with-us

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    Yes, we will see quite a few folks get saved... but God never says we will save the world or turn the world around.

    It has been infected with sin and must be controlled by force, so when Jesus starts His 1000 reign starting off with locking up ol slewfoot, He will then rule with a hand of iron.

    Then many will lern what it means for Jesus to be Lord! He's the Boss and we do what He leads us to do... which is all good for a person with a pure heart. Yet, some will rebel even then but they will either be incarcerated or put down because Jesus will have His way!

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    Thanks for a great article. I agree with it 100%. I hope many will read it.

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    Good article.

    For decades there were many things that conservative/republicans and liberal/democrats had in common. Many times, though not all, there as a common goal, but there was seen different paths to achieve that goal. The modern progressive/liberal, which most of our higher democrat leaders are, is much different than the old. They speak in a way that makes it look as if they want the same good thing as most people do, but they don't. Their goal is entirely different.

    Much of it can be seen in the redefinition of terms.

    Racism: the term has an entirely different meaning than it had 40 years ago. It actually had to do with race back then. For the most part now it refers to a culture or subculture, including religion. It is a term bantered about to achieve one's goals by instilling fear into others.

    "Income inequality" has replaced helping the poor. It is based on coveting and envy. Does it matter if some have a lot more than others, or does it matter if all have enough? Income equality is a grab at wealth and a means to punish.

    Community, family, marriage have been redefined.

    "Global" versus "National" interests. 20 years ago the liberal would yell "foul", it isn't in our national interest. Now our businesses, our daily lives are being governed by fictitious
    global concerns such as global warming. It is power grab and a wealth grab and nothing more.

    Listening to speeches given today by the progressive/liberal/statist you will see these over and over again. New definitions seem to be added monthly. Have you ever wondered why they don't use the phrases others do? Why they refuse to use certain terms? It is to redirect the conversation and change the language. It is to fundamentally change how people think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Yes, we will see quite a few folks get saved... but God never says we will save the world or turn the world around.

    It has been infected with sin and must be controlled by force, so when Jesus starts His 1000 reign starting off with locking up ol slewfoot, He will then rule with a hand of iron.

    Then many will lern what it means for Jesus to be Lord! He's the Boss and we do what He leads us to do... which is all good for a person with a pure heart. Yet, some will rebel even then but they will either be incarcerated or put down because Jesus will have His way!
    "and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near."

    As times get worse we should redouble our good deeds. That includes fighting evil.

    There have been periods of evil and evil reign when things were turned around. Many thought WWII must have been the last generation for this world, but it wasn't. God and many people did turn it around.
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    This was racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    -This is an article written by Mario Murillo. I dare you to read it. It is a clear and bold call to the real church to arise and oppose the things that are killing our country. I shared it on my social networks but realized it is far more worthy of a greater audience and readership than my own networks could give it.

    I received permission from him personally to share it here. It may be the most important and timely article you can read concerning present day America and the church. When I read it, I felt an immediate connection to the Spirit of its words, much like when Jonathan's soul was knit to David's after his mighty victory against Goliath and the Philistines (1 Sam. 18:1).

    Picture this. David is escorted before King Saul by Abner, the commander of Israel's army. He is still a teenager—small, baby-faced, and wet behind the ears, but in his hand he is carrying the head of Goliath—the head that he had just severed from his body using Goliath's own sword. Jonathan is listening to David responding to King Saul's questions, while holding that big giant head in his tiny hand.

    Can you see it? Jonathan is stirred from within. He identifies with the brave warrior spirit in David. "I like this boy," he utters from within. "I like his attitude," he muses. "I love his courageous spirit!" his heart exclaims. This is a picture of what needs to happen with 400,000 Protestant preachers in America right now.

    The battle of the Philistines is the kind of battle America is in today. Our nation is in a gigantic crisis. Most Christians are scared and don't believe they can do anything. Most pastors and Christian leaders are afraid to speak out against the Goliath in the White House. Only those who are of another spirit and whose hearts are knit together by an allegiance to the Lord of hosts and the covenant our forefathers made with Him in establishing our nation will be able to fight in this battle.

    Now please read Mario's message carefully and prayerfully and allow it to ignite your heart for the battle that rages.

    This article is not about Obama. He is mentioned in it. He is accused in it—he is the villain of it—but it is not about him. This article is about you and me. It is about facing the most horrible fact—we have had to face—since the Civil War.

    The man who occupies the White House is at war with us. He is not at war against ISIS. He is not at war against black poverty. He is not at war against unemployment. He is not at war against anything that threatens you. He is at war with you.
    The man who has the most power over Americans is actively working to destroy Americans. That is a bitter pill to swallow—but swallow it we must.

    But how do I convince you that he is at war against us? I struggled with this for a long time. Then I found an analogy that explains Obama's destructive style. He acts like a man that has murdered his wife and is trying to cover it up.

    The husband is always the first suspect—no matter what. Detectives use a different set of eyes than you and I. The adoring faithful husband is defended by family, friends and neighbors. He has the perfect alibi. He has no history of violence.

    However, the police will not rule him out if he begins to act strangely. Say, he shows little sense of loss. He talks more about himself than he does his dead wife. If she is missing, he seems to be going through the motions of trying to find her.

    Obama's reaction to the mass murder in Paris is a perfect example. It is the same, tired, brain-numbing non response to terror. He is sorry, but not really. He keeps up the appearance of a caring husband who—having done away with his wife—feigns sorrow. He has done this after every terror attack.

    Sherlock Holmes said, "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" When you eliminate the impossible about Obama here is what is left: He is motivated by hate. He hates America. He hates Christianity. He hates Israel.

    All of his policies carry this one universal criterion: How much it will damage the people I hate. Use that formula and all of the lights will suddenly go on. He blocks energy independence, a secure border, a jobs program or anything else that would better our lives.

    His foreign, environmental, economic, immigration, and educational, policies fail by design—not incompetence. He ruined our healthcare, enflames racial division, foments student unrest, and endangers the lives of police officers by design.

    He bullies Israel but gives billions to her mortal enemies.

    Here is what is really chilling: Even after it was proven that the killers in Paris were Syrian refugees, he will still force us to take in 100,000 Syrian refugees. Is he actually working toward terrorism here at home?

    We should stop doing these things:

    1. Stop denying that he is at war against you and your children's future. Face it! How can you do what Christ wants you to do against this evil if you will not admit the evil?

    We cannot stop Obama unless we face the fact that he is at war with us. All God-fearing, freedom-loving people must unify against him. The unity and resolve required to stop him can come only after we face the ugly truth.

    2. Quit saying all we need to do is pray. Of course we need to pray. I intercede daily. But to say that all we need to do is pray is a cop out. If you believe that the sole response to Obama should be prayer, then you are doing a disservice—not only to America—but to prayer. Prayer always ends in acts of obedience.

    No one ever prayed like Jesus. No one ever understood prayer like Jesus. No one valued prayer like Jesus. And yet, He did not just pray. He went forth in the power of the Spirit. He rebuked the king—He turned over the tables of the money changers and He verbally blistered the Pharisees. He did not just pray—He acted on His prayers.

    In Acts 4:29 Peter prayed "Lord look on their threats and grant to your servants that with all boldness we may speak Your Word." Try this the next time you pray—Ask for boldness and guidance. Ask to know your place in stopping the war on Israel, Christianity and everything that made America great. After you pray ... you have to take a stand.

    3. Stop supporting Christian compromise. Why your pastor refuses to preach against the crimes of Obama is not the question—why you still attend that church is the question.
    Your time, talent and money should not be going to the compromised church. Shift your support. Begin to strengthen the arm of those who are risking all to oppose this tyrant.

    4. Stop abusing love. It is not hateful to oppose Obama—it is love. To be silent in face of hatred is hatred itself. When we remain silent, we do not practice love; we hate God's Word; we hate holiness; we hate truth; we hate sacrifice and courage.
    Stop worrying about what millennials think. Stop worrying about our public persona. When the truth comes out, a grateful generation will thank us for intervening against destruction.

    5. Quit saying "I am not going to do anything because it won't make any difference." Revivals can be traced to a single person. Do not say that great movements cannot begin with small groups in unpromising circumstances. Indeed, that is exactly how all great movements have been born.

    You have come to the kingdom for such a time as this. You cannot waste one more moment in fear or self-pity. God can take your simple prayer and willingness and add His amazing power and wisdom to your endeavors.

    What if God has been waiting a hundred years for you to come along—discard fear and doubt—take up the sword of the Lord—and plunge it into the heart of spiritual darkness?

    http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/...at-war-with-us

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    Quote Originally Posted by papabrett View Post
    There have been periods of evil and evil reign when things were turned around. Many thought WWII must have been the last generation for this world, but it wasn't. God and many people did turn it around.
    Study what God said in His Word about end times events... you will find the end of this age is coming upon us and there is no turning the world around this time.

    I'm seeing more and more Christians that are living in fear because the US continues to go downhill and is becoming more and more evil.

    In John 18:36, when they were about to arrest Jesus, the Lord specifically said His Kingdom was not of this world... if it was, His followers would take up arms and fight.

    So, what are people so worried about? Their comfortable lives here on earth???

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    Worried?

    Evil is evil. I wish no one to be evil, and I wish no one's evil to affect another person. It isn't about worrying. It is about proclaiming right, standing against evil and doing right. It is good and right to protect people, especially the innocent. Would I take up an arm to protect my child against an evil predator ... you betch ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papabrett View Post
    Worried?

    Evil is evil. I wish no one to be evil, and I wish no one's evil to affect another person. It isn't about worrying. It is about proclaiming right, standing against evil and doing right. It is good and right to protect people, especially the innocent. Would I take up an arm to protect my child against an evil predator ... you betch ya.
    Big difference between personal self defense versus "we must save this nation" which is not going to be happening this time around.

    Many who claim to be Christian are in fact living in fear over the way this nation is going downhill because their focus is more on this life than their personal relationship with the Lord.

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    Actually protecting my child isn't self defense.It is protecting another. I think it biblical to lay down my own life, allow it to be taken, but not biblical to let evil take the life of another.
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