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    The sermon that derailed American Christianity



    I thought this was going to be educational, And then they attack Christian music.

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    The man is a rabid cessationist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I thought this was going to be educational, And then they attack Christian music.
    Spoiler alert: At about 16:00 (and for maybe about 1 minute in a 22 min video) music is mentioned as a way that people who have drifted away from sound doctrine attract people to themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jew and Greek View Post
    The man is a rabid cessationist.
    And what's that got to do with the topic in hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I thought this was going to be educational, And then they attack Christian music.
    Some of things in there seemed similar to this one on Progressive "Christians" which I watched earlier today:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jew and Greek View Post
    The man is a rabid cessationist.
    Yeah, I posted it while watching it thinking that it was a "church history" video on denominations. Then as I continued watching I noticed that he derails himself.

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    Yeah, I posted it while watching it thinking that it was a "church history" video on denominations. Then as I continued watching I noticed that he derails himself.
    One of the interesting things in life is we see or hear what we've seen or heard before.

    As I missed the derailing, do you remember where?

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    I think the guy is a Baptist. No mention of the oldest group dating back to the day of Pentecost. PENTECOSTALISM.

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    He puts too much emphasis on Fosdick. There was a lot of departure from the fundamentals of the faith way before him. Some of the Transcendentalists such as Emerson, Thoreau, and others of that ilk were hugely popular in the 19th century. The Unitarians and Universalists were gaining traction back then. I think he's too hard on Billy Graham. I never heard Graham align himself in any way with the Modernists who deny the major tenets of the faith. He did reach out to Catholics, but was pretty firm on the essentials. This guy left out any mention of Charismatics. He's very selective in his analysis.

    The Modernists have morphed into "Progressive" Christians, taking many Evangelicals with them.

    It was good of him to mention Evan Roberts, largely forgotten today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    I think the guy is a Baptist. No mention of the oldest group dating back to the day of Pentecost. PENTECOSTALISM.
    They'd only been around 20 years by then, yes? And would head straight to the left of the board wouldn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    This guy left out any mention of Charismatics. He's very selective in his analysis.
    I noticed that, too. He listed the four branches of Christianity as Catholic, Moderninsts, Fundamentalists, and Baptists. I've seen several others list them as Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant, and Pentecostal/Charismatic. I would just say Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestant since all Pentecostals and most Charismatics trace their theological roots to the holiness movement. While Baptists don't trace their denomination back to the Reformation, I think they would still fit well within the Protestant camp theologically.

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