Thread: White Privilege

Some pray for revival, which of course I am supportive of, but God has already sent revival again and again, and most every time man/flesh gets in and ruins it. God will never force revival on the church. He will not "stuff" His precious Holy Spirit down the proverbial throats of the lukewarm who gloat over worldly entertainment on the platform .
I feel the church is ready for His coming NOW. Yet the visible church is so full of tares, ie. christian look alikes, that we keep misjudging it and thinking it is asleep. If you talk to the true church you will soon know that they ARE close to God in their relationship, and their lamps ARE trimmed and burning. However, in too many cases, the tares have taken over the church and the church appears devoid of the Spirit, filled with man-made enthusiasm, feel good meetings and programs.
Jesus is coming soon, at any time, He is even at the door. God's true church is ready.

Just my 2 cents

I think you may be right, Nikos. There is a tendency lately to keep saying "if the church would just wake up and do the Chronicles thing, it would all be fixed". The wheat and tares have to grow up together so the wheat won't be damaged by plucking out the tares Scripture doesn't say anything about tares turning into wheat. A seed produces after it's kind. The church looks to still have spots and wrinkles because we see the tares mixed in. Just my .02.

Originally Posted by Nikos

Some pray for revival, which of course I am supportive of, but God has already sent revival again and again, and most every time man/flesh gets in and ruins it. God will never force revival on the church. He will not "stuff" His precious Holy Spirit down the proverbial throats of the lukewarm who gloat over worldly entertainment on the platform .
I feel the church is ready for His coming NOW. Yet the visible church is so full of tares, ie. christian look alikes, that we keep misjudging it and thinking it is asleep. If you talk to the true church you will soon know that they ARE close to God in their relationship, and their lamps ARE trimmed and burning. However, in too many cases, the tares have taken over the church and the church appears devoid of the Spirit, filled with man-made enthusiasm, feel good meetings and programs.
Jesus is coming soon, at any time, He is even at the door. God's true church is ready.

Just my 2 cents

Brother, I agree with a big amen. Pastors need to be aware of those tares. There are those Paul called "false brethren" (2 Cor 11:26). Some are bitter and love to defile others, those I have called "joy suckers". You hear them coming 2 blocks away, sounding like a worn out shop vac wanting to suck the joy right out of you. Then, there are witches that have plopped themselves (male and female) down in the pew trying their best to stop the preaching of the gospel in it's authority. None of this is new or increased, it's the same ole same ole in every congregation.

Originally Posted by BAP

So what exactly are you proposing ? Busing ?

From what you have posted so far I would think the major culprit is discipline which the education system can't fix . Only rebuilding the black family can fix . No ?

I wish I had the answers....if I did, I'd make a platform and speak it loud and long.

I think we can all agree that the present system isn't working. While we're making all the changes due to Covid, maybe school systems need to look at what other changes can be made. I see so many students show up in my classroom that WANT to learn, but they're playing catch up when it comes to writing ability and vocabulary knowledge. Let me stress that I'm not blaming the teachers, I'm blaming the system. it's all very sad to me.

Originally Posted by curly sue

I think you may be right, Nikos. There is a tendency lately to keep saying "if the church would just wake up and do the Chronicles thing, it would all be fixed". The wheat and tares have to grow up together so the wheat won't be damaged by plucking out the tares Scripture doesn't say anything about tares turning into wheat. A seed produces after it's kind. The church looks to still have spots and wrinkles because we see the tares mixed in. Just my .02.

I agree. Thanks for your comment.

As far as "white privilege" and the problem of race in our schools, I agree with Listra that the blame does not lie with the teachers. IMO, it is caused by lack of opportunity. Not only lack of opportunity for the student, but for their parents, and in a broader sense their families. An industrious student can achieve through hard work and being unwilling to settle for the status quo. That takes vision! But most don't have that foresight and give up along the way.

Originally Posted by Lista

I wish I had the answers....if I did, I'd make a platform and speak it loud and long.

I think we can all agree that the present system isn't working. While we're making all the changes due to Covid, maybe school systems need to look at what other changes can be made. I see so many students show up in my classroom that WANT to learn, but they're playing catch up when it comes to writing ability and vocabulary knowledge. Let me stress that I'm not blaming the teachers, I'm blaming the system. it's all very sad to me.

I hear you ..
Used to work in the public schools too and it was always so sad seeing kids with promise and intent being held back by the troublemakers . That's why I am a big advocate of the voucher system