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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    That's no excuse
    You should write a report on the video so that we may ascertain that you have understood its content fully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    You should write a report on the video so that we may ascertain that you have understood its content fully.

    Trinitarian - Right
    Oneness - Wrong


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Trinitarian - Right
    Oneness - Wrong

    I'm not sure if everyone in the video would agree with your rendition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    The early church Fathers went through a long process of examination, prayer, debate etc. to arrive at their conclusion of trinitarian doctrine
    They considered alternatives which included 'Oneness' and rejected it. They were lead by the Holy Spirit and came to the most accurate scriptural understanding of apostolic teaching

    Oneness gained momentum around 1915 ...they ended up leaving trinitarian churches so the division was caused by believers espousing Oneness theology
    Caused by....interesting concept....But that really is not the issue...the division is real....but so are all splits are they not?

    The point is claiming superiority or accuracy of scriptural interpretation is based on those who decided ______ (whatever) makes is so has never been my source of confidence.

    I can indoctrinate myself to any belief and convince myself it is true because of my systematic theology...Baptist do it...Catholics....Methodist...Church of Christ....in a debate everyone one of them has an answer for why the other is wrong in their interpretation.

    Solid indoctrination can win a debate anytime...does not make it RIGHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I'm not sure if everyone in the video would agree with your rendition.
    I am thinking

    Trinity partly right
    Oneness partly right

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    Actually... both are right at the same time. It's part of the mystery of the Lord.

    The Bible teaches there is One God.

    The Bible also teachers there are 3 that bare witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Spirit.

    It's quite simple actually.

    We are 3 part beings according to the Word of God as having been created in God's image... but we are ONE person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Actually... both are right at the same time. It's part of the mystery of the Lord.
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    They both can't be right

    The Father is not the Son even though they are the one God

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    1 John 5:7
    For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

    See there... the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one.

    So, you aren't yourself? God created man in His Image - 3 in one person, but yet 3 different parts or persons.

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    Here's a new two-minute video by Dr. Brown where he offers his thoughts on Oneness Pentecostalism.



    Whereas I agree with him that the cultic kind probably isn't saved (snake handlers just to start somewhere), I think he goes too far when he makes the salvation of the mainstream Oneness Pentecostal a matter of not being totally consistent about their official beliefs concerning the nature of the Godhead (trinity or not). I don't think that adhering to correct doctrine concerning the trinity is in any way essential to salvation. The nature of Jesus as both God and man and his physical resurrection from the dead are far more important doctrines.

    In my mind, the schism that Oneness theology brought during the early days of Pentecostalism is the main problem with it. There is such a thing as strength in unity and especially in the beginning the two "clans" came up with strong condemnations of each other as hellbound heretics.
    I would respectfully disagree.

    If Trinity doctrine is wrong (and I staunchly believe it is), then it is an idol. It is the very Biblical definition of a false image of God and there are many 100s of millions led astray by it.

    Will God judge every one of them definitively?

    That's God's department, but it's a pretty serious misalignment with God's Word to be worshiping, and praying to, something (and thus someone) other than Almighty God.

    Just my 2 cents.

    ETA: I'm not a fan of Michael Brown at all. I have found him to be very insincere and unprofessional multiple times on the radio and on videos of his presentations. I don't find him to represent Scripture honestly or accurately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONEmeansONE View Post
    I would respectfully disagree.

    If Trinity doctrine is wrong (and I staunchly believe it is), then it is an idol. It is the very Biblical definition of a false image of God and there are many 100s of millions led astray by it.

    Will God judge every one of them definitively?

    That's God's department, but it's a pretty serious misalignment with God's Word to be worshiping, and praying to, something (and thus someone) other than Almighty God.

    Just my 2 cents.

    ETA: I'm not a fan of Michael Brown at all. I have found him to be very insincere and unprofessional multiple times on the radio and on videos of his presentations. I don't find him to represent Scripture honestly or accurately.
    So who DO you like for some frame of reference. :)
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