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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    Read on to verse 29 to see whom he's speaking of: "since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the Lord." That's not a genuine seeker after God. As I said in the post, "It's not possible to seek God with all your heart and not be found by Him."
    That scripture was given to Israel because they KNEW who they had to seek

    Lots of people have sought their version of 'God' over the millenia with all their heart and never came to saving faith

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    So you think it's possible to seek God with all your heart and not find Him? You sound like a Calvinist! You know the Word says God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    So you think it's possible to seek God with all your heart and not find Him? You sound like a Calvinist! You know the Word says God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
    The above scripture is related to those who believe


    I mentioned God gives unsaved people supernatural encounters which then leads them to HEAR the gospel and respond with faith


    Do all the millions of Hindus in India who are desperately trying to find god end up saved????
    Many of them are sincere and doing the best to seek after their version of 'god' but it does not lead them to Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    The above scripture is related to those who believe


    I mentioned God gives unsaved people supernatural encounters which then leads them to HEAR the gospel and respond with faith


    Do all the millions of Hindus in India who are desperately trying to find god end up saved????
    Many of them are sincere and doing the best to seek after their version of 'god' but it does not lead them to Christ
    If they do not find Christ, they are not truly seeking God. True seekers of God will always end up at the foot of the cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    If they do not find Christ, they are not truly seeking God. True seekers of God will always end up at the foot of the cross.
    I don't think anyone disagrees with that comment

    Your previous 2 comments seemed a bit nebulous ...maybe explaining yourself would help to remove any ambiguity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    I don't think anyone disagrees with that comment

    Your previous 2 comments seemed a bit nebulous ...maybe explaining yourself would help to remove any ambiguity
    I thought I made it clear in my first post that anyone TRULY seeking the Lord will find Him. I'm not talking about people who may be seeking a religion. I'm talking about people who are seeking Him diligently. The diligent seeking of God will always lead to the cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I thought I made it clear in my first post that anyone TRULY seeking the Lord will find Him. I'm not talking about people who may be seeking a religion. I'm talking about people who are seeking Him diligently. The diligent seeking of God will always lead to the cross.
    What if the person is living in America in the year 1200 ? Or 1000 BC ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    But even though I disagree with Dr. Grahams theology in the interview, would God be fair and just to allow a people (tribe) to go to hell because they never had the opportunity to receive Jesus, or ever heard the gospel. Again, what did Billy mean when he said, "the only light they had"?
    I think we have to look at the evidence we are seeing more and more in the world today, and it is also shown in Cornelius and the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 10 & 8. These were seeking to know God in the only way they knew: Judaism. What was God's response? He sent messengers to them! And now, today we are hearing all these testimonies of muslims who are seeking to know the true God, and the next thing you know they are having dreams and visions of Jesus, and also in many cases they are also shown certain disciples who will be coming into their lives. And concerning native Americans, have you watched Perry Stone's message on God's plan for the end time outpouring among them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I think we have to look at the evidence we are seeing more and more in the world today, and it is also shown in Cornelius and the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 10 & 8. These were seeking to know God in the only way they knew: Judaism. What was God's response? He sent messengers to them! And now, today we are hearing all these testimonies of muslims who are seeking to know the true God, and the next thing you know they are having dreams and visions of Jesus, and also in many cases they are also shown certain disciples who will be coming into their lives. And concerning native Americans, have you watched Perry Stone's message on God's plan for the end time outpouring among them?

    Thanks for sharing! I listened to the above video and found it to be a blessing. Much spiritual significance realized in regards to the Cherokee people. I myself have crow Indian in my family roots and heritage. Now I will go on to the next video you have posted brother.
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