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    Question 'God Is the Judge,' Hillsong's Carl Lentz Tells 'The View' When Asked Whether or Not Abortion Is Sin

    'God Is the Judge,' Hillsong's Carl Lentz Tells 'The View' When Asked Whether or Not Abortion Is Sin

    Carl Lentz of Hillsong New York recently appeared on ABC's "The View," where he was asked whether or not abortion is considered a sin at his church. While the answer was unclear, Lentz said that "God is the judge" and that he would prefer to know a person's name and beliefs before making a determination as to whether or not they have sinned.

    "Hillsong is seen as this hip, progressive church that's drawn huge millennial crowds, but it's still evangelical," co-host Sara Haines stated to Lentz during the Oct. 30 broadcast. "So, where do you stand on social issues that young people are particularly passionate about, like gay marriage [and] abortion? Like, how do you address those types of things?"

    "I think our job is still to help people—not necessarily change how they think—but try to point them to what God has said, what we believe the Bible [has] to say," Lentz replied. "We believe that God is good, that God loves everybody, that Jesus was here to set people free, and that's still the good news of the gospel."

    He said that he tries to allow everyone who would like to hear the message to come to Hillsong because sometimes evangelicals and others shut out those who disagree on the issues.

    Bringing Lentz back around to the question, co-host Joy Bahar then asked, "So, it's not a sin in your church to have an abortion?"

    "Um, that's the kind of conversation we would have—finding out your story, where you're from, what you believe," Lentz replied. "Work through it," Haines interjected. "Like, talk about things."

    "Yeah, I mean, God's the judge," Lentz answered. "People have to live with their own convictions, and I think if I have to tell you..." His response drew applause from the audience.

    That's such a broad question to me. I'm going higher," Lentz said. "I want to sit with somebody and say, 'What do you believe?'" "So, it's not an open-and-shut case with you," Bahar observed.

    "Some people would say it is," Lentz replied. "I think, to me, I'm trying to teach people who Jesus is first [and] find out their story. Before I start picking and choosing what is sin in your life, I'd like to know your name."
    https://christiannews.net/2017/11/02...ortion-is-sin/

    When the world hears responses such as this from Christians, they become confused. This is why I wish entertainers, even Christian entertainers, would just keep their pie holes shut and use their gifts to bless people with hymns and psalms.

    Ignorant responses like this is taking a giant step backwards and makes it more difficult for TRUE preachers of the Gospel to effectively witness about the dangers of sin, and particularly the burning, liquefying, and dismembering of our tiny citizens thorough abortion.

    I am dismayed this man wouldn't call abortion what it is, outright murder. But I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, this is the same man who "drank shots" with Justin Bieber while singing a lyrically offensive Rap song.
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    He needs to make a bolder stance instead of portraying a lukewarm gospel

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    I'm going to guess that he is thinking of extreme situations like assault rape, a child being born completely dysfunctional or even braindead etc. There's always something to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I'm going to guess that he is thinking of extreme situations like assault rape, a child being born completely dysfunctional or even braindead etc. There's always something to discuss.
    I'm thinking he's a spiritual coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I'm thinking he's a spiritual coward.
    He responds to a question about gay marriage and abortion but doesn't discuss the former at all, I'm wondering what kind of gray zone he has in mind with that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    He needs to make a bolder stance instead of portraying a lukewarm gospel
    He needed to tell Joy that abortion is murder. And not back down from that position. Like Fuego said, spiritual coward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    He needed to tell Joy that abortion is murder. And not back down from that position. Like Fuego said, spiritual coward.
    Hipster pastors have a special dispensation from God to be trendy and avoid hard questions as their image and coolness is more important than truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Hipster pastors have a special dispensation from God to be trendy and avoid hard questions as their image and coolness is more important than truth
    Yep.

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    I agree he shouldn't be so wishy-washy, but I think he and others in the spotlight need to formulate a Scriptural answer that the godless interviewers can understand. This needs to be done ahead of time. He should anticipate trick questions and have an answer ready. In a way, they're baiting him, and he should be ready to turn it back on them, and not take the bait.

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    I agree Bookie. I had thought he was younger than he actually is, and was going to cut him some slack, but he is a pastor and should be spiritually mature enough to be ready for the tactics used by the devil’s kids. I’m just saying.
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