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Thread: The Downside of racial integration from a Black Christian perspective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romans828 View Post
    OK, Brother - I apologize if you were offended by my response, and I ask for your forgiveness.

    Second, I certainly wasn't trying to be dismissive - I thought your point was to say: "See, if this article was written by a white person, they'd be called a racist."

    ...So my response was actually in agreement with you...

    And as you know, I try to avoid these types of heated discussions, because they never end well.

    However, (given my heartbreak at the recent gang up on FO) maybe it did come across as a bit snarky, and again, I apologize.
    I wasn't offended. The problem with print is that you can't tell how it's being said, It can come across in a way that it's not meant to. I'm saying that both for you and me. I was just simply responding to the post and there was nothing behind it other than just responsing. And I appreciate your 'spirit'.

    We're good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romans828 View Post

    However, (given my heartbreak at the recent gang up on FO) maybe it did come across as a bit snarky, and again, I apologize.
    Gang Up on FO .. ???

    FO was and has been very Badly Behaved so there was no Gang up just a talking to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    Oh, please don't name names. You might get accused of "bullying".
    One of the cranky ones admitted it. The other one didn't but they did apologized here on this thread

    Still not mentioning names

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I wasn't offended. The problem with print is that you can't tell how it's being said, It can come across in a way that it's not meant to. I'm saying that both for you and me. I was just simply responding to the post and there was nothing behind it other than just responsing. And I appreciate your 'spirit'.

    We're good.
    FO was offended. An apology is in order

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Gang Up on FO .. ???

    FO was and has been very Badly Behaved so there was no Gang up just a talking to
    Really? Who was talking to me? I read some hyperbole by random folk, but no, I don't remember being talked to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    Oh, please don't name names. You might get accused of "bullying".
    Pente doesn't have a bullying bone in his body, although he tries sometimes

    Hope it felt good getting that off your chest tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    FO was offended. An apology is in order
    Fuego ain't the apologizing type.

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    It is sinful to segregate out of hate for other people or with a desire for permanent separation. But black community empowers us to live more racially integrated lives, not less. With a solid sense of self and the confidence in others’ support of us, black Christians can engage a world built around whiteness with courage and patience.

    White people may never fully comprehend the downside of integration for black people. We can only hope our white brothers and sisters will assume and believe the best of us, and celebrate our attempts at forging black community instead of impeding them. Although black people are going to find a way to gather with one another anyway, the understanding from white Christians would facilitate racial harmony.
    I think a fair analogy is a support group for victims of child abuse, or for people afflicted with a particular medical condition. Participants in such groups would normally be people who have experienced a particular problem and can therefore relate to one another on a deeper level than would be possible with people of the general population. It seems to me that descendants of slaves who have been treated like second-class citizens based on their appearance, have, in fact, endured a particular kind of abuse, and might benefit from sharing their experiences with those who have suffered similarly.

    Many churches have the concept of "small groups", each of which has a particular focus and attracts people with certain common experiences. It seems to me that this would be the appropriate avenue to address such needs within a larger multi-racial, multi-ethnic church community.

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    This all reminds me of something some white guy once said years ago. He used to mistreat people on the job and a black guy accused him of racism. He told him, "I'm not a racist. I hate all of you equally, whether you are black or white."

    Well, at least he can't be accused of racism
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    This all reminds me of something some white guy once said years ago. He used to mistreat people on the job and a black guy accused him of racism. He told him, "I'm not a racist. I hate all of you equally, whether you are black or white."

    Well, at least he can't be accused of racism
    I worked with some guys like that. Most of them were alcoholics though, but a few of them hated everybody.
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