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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    Yeah, so what
    Well at least you own it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    FaithfulOne in my opinion, the black inner city church (many) are in decline. I've not only seen it but I've been told that by many leaders, yet some of those churches are reaching the most broken. On the other hand,IMO Some of them are in decline because of pastoral abuse. What I mean is Bishops living large while the people suffer. I think the younger generation is just not going to succomb to that like the older generation did.

    No one makes anyone attend a church. If you go, you do it by choice. If one goes to a predominately white or black church, it's probably going to have a dominant culture. No?

    In the 60s during civil rights, he probably would have a valid point. But in 2017? I just don't see it.
    Yep, our parents and grandparents put up with a lot...my mom and grandmother basically did as they were led, especially when it came down to money appeals. You know how some churches give you $$ amounts to give if it's like a church or pastoral anniversary, or the seemingly eternal "building fund"? They did what they could based on their budget, and that was that. They weren't too keen on pastoral manipulation. As for the young people, nope they aren't going along with that either. but what distresses me a little is that some I've been around cuss on a regular basis, and don't seem to have any conviction about it. It's all a part of the "come as you are" culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romans828 View Post
    OK, we get it...

    NEWS FLASH: Black folks can be racist too!

    I don't think anyone on this forum disputes that fact.
    Yeah, but look at your reaction to a little 'equal time' on the racist front. You totally dismissed it. No discussion, etc. One article, yet we're bombarded all the time with white racism in every article that is posted here just about. You NEVER hear anything about black racism from the left or the liberal media.

    It reminds me of when Trump won, The Real were playing a tape of a live show they were doing during the election for broadcast the next morning. You could tell they did it like that so they could really cheer on the fact that Hillary won, except she didn't. You would have thought somebody died. Well they let different people from the audience talk about it, and then they had a black woman and a white man who supported Trump speak about it. After a few comments by the white guy one of the blacks on the panel shut him down and said something like, "Yeah, yeah, we know, Trump won." There was no tolerance for it at all. All the convo was about Hillary, but then just a minute about Trump and that was too much.

    Well here's an article would be considered racist if it were a white written about whites, and it gets a "yeah we get it" as if that was what was written here all the time. The fact is most blacks, black leaders, the left, and liberal media DO NOT THINK that blacks can be racist. They do this by adding a little tagline when it's being talked about that you also have to be a part of the 'power structure' to be racist, and of course they say that because they believe that excludes most blacks. So in other words, for the most part only whites can be racists because mostly whites are a part of the 'power structure'. There is a real intolerance of claiming blacks can be racist. 99.99999% of every article posted here that we post is about whites being racist, because that's all the liberal media puts out there. Somebody finally posts one article that talks about the other side of the issue, and it's met with 'we get it', and THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU...in response to that remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Yeah, but look at your reaction to a little 'equal time' on the racist front. You totally dismissed it. No discussion, etc. One article, yet we're bombarded all the time with white racism in every article that is posted here just about. You NEVER hear anything about black racism from the left or the liberal media.

    It reminds me of when Trump won, The Real were playing a tape of a live show they were doing during the election for broadcast the next morning. You could tell they did it like that so they could really cheer on the fact that Hillary won, except she didn't. You would have thought somebody died. Well they let different people from the audience talk about it, and then they had a black woman and a white man who supported Trump speak about it. After a few comments by the white guy one of the blacks on the panel shut him down and said something like, "Yeah, yeah, we know, Trump won." There was no tolerance for it at all. All the convo was about Hillary, but then just a minute about Trump and that was too much.

    Well here's an article would be considered racist if it were a white written about whites, and it gets a "yeah we get it" as if that was what was written here all the time. The fact is most blacks, black leaders, the left, and liberal media DO NOT THINK that blacks can be racist. They do this by adding a little tagline when it's being talked about that you also have to be a part of the 'power structure' to be racist, and of course they say that because they believe that excludes most blacks. So in other words, for the most part only whites can be racists because mostly whites are a part of the 'power structure'. There is a real intolerance of claiming blacks can be racist. 99.99999% of every article posted here that we post is about whites being racist, because that's all the liberal media puts out there. Somebody finally posts one article that talks about the other side of the issue, and it's met with 'we get it', and THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU...in response to that remark.
    So nobody can say "thank you" around here anymore?? Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    So nobody can say "thank you" around here anymore?? Sheesh.
    And now YOU'RE deflecting. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    And now YOU'RE deflecting. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Yeah, but look at your reaction to a little 'equal time' on the racist front. You totally dismissed it. No discussion, etc..
    OK, Brother - I apologize if you were offended by my response, and I ask for your forgiveness.

    Second, I certainly wasn't trying to be dismissive - I thought your point was to say: "See, if this article was written by a white person, they'd be called a racist."

    ...So my response was actually in agreement with you...

    And as you know, I try to avoid these types of heated discussions, because they never end well.

    However, (given my heartbreak at the recent gang up on FO) maybe it did come across as a bit snarky, and again, I apologize.

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    And as you know, I try to avoid these types of heated discussions, because they never end well...

    ....However, (given my heartbreak at the recent gang up on FO)
    I appreciate this my sis, love you

    And as a matter of accountability, let me say I'm going to try to stay away from those "heated discussions" too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Just seems like a big long excuse for something the writer would call 'racist' if whites did it.
    I don't know what's more ridiculous, this piece, or the person that wrote it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    So of y'all are so cranky lately - no names
    Oh, please don't name names. You might get accused of "bullying".
    When your praise match your prayers, the answer will come.
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