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In my opinion, the problem with some of the responses to the incident is that their analysis is like that of a referee judging a sporting event - which side committed the most penalties. What seems to be missing is the recognition that one side of the protest - the Nazi/white supremacist side - is fundamentally wrong, and evil!
With that said, I do condemn the violence committed by each side.
Thank you njtom, I condemn it as well. There you go Quest..happy now?
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Originally Posted by
njtom
In my opinion, the problem with some of the responses to the incident is that their analysis is like that of a referee judging a sporting event - which side committed the most penalties. What seems to be missing is the recognition that one side of the protest - the Nazi/white supremacist side - is fundamentally wrong, and evil!
With that said, I do condemn the violence committed by each side.
Antifa has been described as anarcho communists, which if taken seriously amounts to a double evil. Hooliganism is also an evil, the act of using whatever excuse to go looking for a brawl. That's three evils.
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Originally Posted by
njtom
In my opinion, the problem with some of the responses to the incident is that their analysis is like that of a referee judging a sporting event - which side committed the most penalties. What seems to be missing is the recognition that one side of the protest - the Nazi/white supremacist side - is fundamentally wrong, and evil!
With that said, I do condemn the violence committed by each side.
From the legal stance at the time of the riots it was presented as fact that the white supremacists had a legal right to be there and did not initiate the violence so regardless of their evil belief system they were not in the wrong here...as much as we may hate their philosophy we still cannot ignore this fact...
As much as we cringe at them and I do as well...and as much as I cringed at the 'women's march' and their evil despicable beliefs, the same was true...and had anti abortionists attacked them I would say the same...
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FaithfulOne
Thank you njtom, I condemn it as well.
There you go Quest..happy now?
Yep...and when the President of the United states said the same thing he was accused of being a white supremacist supporter, a racist hater when the fact is he was not willing to pick one evil side over another evil side and opted to take a stand for law and order...
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Quest
Yep...and when the President of the United states said the same thing he was accused of being a white supremacist supporter, a racist hater when the fact is he was not willing to pick one evil side over another evil side and opted to take a stand for law and order...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politi...lay/index.html
The news conference laid bare his unvarnished view of who was to blame for the violence and what he thinks about the nationwide effort to remove statues of Confederate leaders. Trump's comments were the latest in what has been a jaw-dropping saga ever since the President made his first vague statement on the violence, blaming the conflicts on "many sides."
The comments also made clear that Trump's speech on Monday -- which vociferously blamed the violence on the "alt-right" and neo-Nazi groups who initiated the protest -- was largely a sterilized version of his view.
"I think there is blame on both sides," Trump said during a contentious back-and-forth with reporters in the lobby of his Midtown Manhattan building.
On Saturday, as violence in Charlottesville played out on national television, Trump blamed "many sides" for the conflict. Though that answer was quickly panned by Democrats and Republicans alike, Trump remained silent on Sunday,
leaving it to his aides to try to clean up his vague answer. Trump, after mounting pressure that was palpable inside the White House, spoke Monday and condemned the white supremacists and neo-Nazis at the heart of the violence.
On Tuesday, though, Trump defended his 48-hour delay in denouncing white supremacists, arguing that he took his time because he didn't know the facts.
The problem Quest, and the reason why Trump got pushback was...he was freakin' VAGUE!!!
I mean, how many times do people gotta say it???
The neo nazis and the KKK are evil. Point Blank. And for YOU to try to get me to say I support riots and violence is despicable. I have ALWAYS maintained that I support protest against injustice full stop. Not violence. Not murder. Not rioting. But you erroneously tried to back me into a corner about it. Despicable Despicable Despicable.
Trump should have (as in the first thing that came out of his MOUTH) CONDEMNED the Nazis and KKK from the start. THAT'S the issue people had with him. But he was thinking about saving his own hide from his "base" which, admit it or not Quest, INCLUDES the alt-right, the KKK and the neo-Nazis. You see, those groups think he is their friend. And he hasn't done much to change that view, but he basically HAD to change his tune over the past couple of days.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politi...all/index.html
House Speaker Paul Ryan said Monday he believed President Donald Trump "messed up" in his response to the recent racial violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, when he equated neo-Nazis and white supremacists with counterprotesters.
"I do believe that he messed up in his comments on Tuesday
when it sounded like a moral equivocation or at the very least moral ambiguity when we need extreme moral clarity," Ryan told CNN's Jake Tapper at a town hall in Racine, Wisconsin, referencing a news conference Trump had last week.
The Wisconsin Republican's criticism of the President was clear and unsparing even as Ryan said that he believes the President has since clarified his comments.
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Originally Posted by
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politi...lay/index.html
The problem Quest, and the reason why Trump got pushback was...he was freakin' VAGUE!!!
I mean, how many times do people gotta say it???
The neo nazis and the KKK are evil. Point Blank. And for YOU to try to get me to say I support riots and violence is despicable. I have ALWAYS maintained that I support protest against injustice full stop. Not violence. Not murder. Not rioting. But you erroneously tried to back me into a corner about it. Despicable Despicable Despicable.
Trump should have (as in the first thing that came out of his MOUTH) CONDEMNED the Nazis and KKK from the start. THAT'S the issue people had with him. But he was thinking about saving his own hide from his "base" which, admit it or not Quest, INCLUDES the alt-right, the KKK and the neo-Nazis. You see, those groups think he is their friend. And he hasn't done much to change that view, but he basically HAD to change his tune over the past couple of days.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politi...all/index.html
Maybe he was vague because the facts were as well...perhaps he preferred to not make rash opinionated statements but to wait for the facts....
So why should his first remarks be to condemn possible law abiding citizens just because of their wicked belief system? No...
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BAP
Nothing new here just the same old same old liberal claptrap
My question is why are so many black evangelicals silent on planned parenthood . They kill more black babies in any given year than the KKK has killed black folks in all its 150 years combined
Heck if I was KKK I would be financing and funding planned parenthood to the hilt
Crickets from the so-called "Christian" leaders of the black community.
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Originally Posted by
FaithfulOne
More deflection. :yawn:
Why not respond...I've never read you utter one word against PP, BLM, or any other racist black group or the racist remarks from folks like Al Sharpton and others of his ilk. Why is it your focus seems to be on white racism?
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Originally Posted by
Valiant Woman
Why not respond...I've never read you utter one word against PP, BLM, or any other racist black group or the racist remarks from folks like Al Sharpton and others of his ilk. Why is it your focus seems to be on white racism?
Because it is the topic I want to speak on. I don't answer deflection posts. If someone wants to start a thread on BLM, PP, or Al Sharpton, and if it interests me, I'll respond. Notice those topics have been discussed here aplenty of times, but right now they are not the primary focus overall.
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