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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I already did Bap...go back and read my testimony...
    29 pages ..Link me to the testimony or tell me what page it's on

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    Quest, your bitterness is showing in your responses.

    Your lack of mercy is evident.

    Perhaps you were not shown mercy and/or are unable to extend mercy to yourself.

    I have forgiven everyone who has ever abused me. I truly am free of it. In word and in deed.

    Forgiveness can be extended without submitting oneself to the same torment to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    As expected .. Obfuscation and avoidance of the question asked :)
    I did answer the question...14 Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness ...

    Who and what are we to pursue? Who is it that must see to it that we have no root of bitterness...the culture we are in or us?

    I answered the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    29 pages ..Link me to the testimony or tell me what page it's on
    I don't remember...somewhere about midway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle View Post
    Quest, your bitterness is showing in your responses.

    Your lack of mercy is evident.

    Perhaps you were not shown mercy and/or are unable to extend mercy to yourself.

    I have forgiven everyone who has ever abused me. I truly am free of it. In word and in deed.

    Forgiveness can be extended without submitting oneself to the same torment to prove it.
    LOL...I have no bitterness..

    forgiveness can be extended without divorce as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I did answer the question...14 Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness ...

    Who and what are we to pursue? Who is it that must see to it that we have no root of bitterness...the culture we are in or us?

    I answered the question
    The question was what do those verses have to do with divorce . You have pretty much repeatedly expressed that the only two pertinent scriptures to the issue at hand were Jesus words and Paul permitting the unbelieving spouse to depart . All other verses you pretty much dismissed as irrelevant since they werent directly addressing divorce.. But by way of some magic formula you are suddenly deeming other verses relevant to the topic at hand.

    Question is why are these verses you have quoted relevant but the verse on a non provider being worse than an infidel relevant ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    The question was what do those verses have to do with divorce . You have pretty much repeatedly expressed that the only two pertinent scriptures to the issue at hand were Jesus words and Paul permitting the unbelieving spouse to depart . All other verses you pretty much dismissed as irrelevant since they werent directly addressing divorce.. But by way of some magic formula you are suddenly deeming other verses relevant to the topic at hand.

    Question is why are these verses you have quoted relevant but the verse on a non provider being worse than an infidel irrelevant ?
    Catchy brought bitterness and said it was caused by the culture and the church..I simply pointed out that bitterness is a choice a person makes...

    No...Bap...I didn't deem others relevant..

    passages that relate to US are relelvant because US is who has to make the decision to trust the Lord and when we do it is US He will be changing in EVERY situation of life.

    I can bring in lots of scripture about how the person who chooses to follow the scriptures regarding divorce can grow in the Lord and act on His character through that difficult time...

    Here are a few more..


    Romans 5:8 ESV /

    But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (and this is how the man is to love His wife)


    1 John 4:8 ESV

    Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.


    1 Corinthians 13:1-13 ESV

    If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; ...


    1 Corinthians 13:7 ESV

    Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.


    1 John 4:18 ESV
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.


    1 Corinthians 13:4-7 ESV

    Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    Now when the spouse sees justification to leave their other spouse and these passages don't come to mind there is a problem..

    THESE fall in the discipline of the Lord..all of these things imply a challenge is present to do otherwise..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    No...I the discipline of the LORD is the work He does in us to transform us when we are IN difficult situations from the inside out by the power of the Holy Spirit..

    Bitterness is the result when we refuse His discipline and choose our own path..
    He did transform me! He caused me to see my worth and value as a human being and as His child!

    He loves me and does not want me to be abused.

    I may one day have to suffer abuse because I won't renounce Christ but that is a different story altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Bitterness is a choice for the believer...
    Rejecting God's compassion towards oneself and not just towards everyone else is also a choice for the believer. Rejecting God's compassion fosters self pity which is what the people of this world often rely on in the wake of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    This is faith and love and obedience to scripture...
    Quest, now you sound exactly like people I'm used to from CARM. Where you seem to default back to that thought in sort of a point, they were more like that in a broader sense. As a Norwegian I'm very well acquainted with dry and dead religion of the type that is hard to find in the United States and that is one characteristic of it. In my mind it is situated as far away from Spirit filled Christianity as it is possible to get, in spirit.

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