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    The church is waaay to loose in regards to divorce, no better than the world, a bad meal can be grounds (half-kidding).

    But extremes should not exist on the other end either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    The Bible says otherwise Catchy..


    Ephesians 4:31

    Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil-speaking, be put away from you, with all malice,



    Hebrews 12:15
    11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.

    12 Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, 13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.

    14 Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled; 16 that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. 17 For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears.

    Bitterness is a choice for the believer...

    Going by your own yardstick ... what exactly do these particular scriptures have to do with divorce ? Thought the only two pertinent scriptures per divorce were the ones you have previously highlighted .. :)

    PS: I love when folks talk themselves into a bind

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I posted the link earlier but I think you'd find these folks in agreement with you.

    https://www.rejoiceministries.org/re...tions-answers/
    I would hesitate to endorse anything especially a ministry I am not familiar with..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Going by your own yardstick ... what exactly do these particular scriptures have to do with divorce ?

    Bitterness is a choice for the believer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Bitterness is a choice for the believer...
    As expected .. Obfuscation and avoidance of the question asked :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    The Bible says otherwise Catchy..


    Ephesians 4:31

    Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil-speaking, be put away from you, with all malice,



    Hebrews 12:15
    11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.

    12 Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, 13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.

    14 Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled; 16 that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. 17 For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears.

    Bitterness is a choice for the believer...

    Are you calling a beating by a husband discipline?

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    My last response. Quest....I have taken the time to explain to you, in very explicit terms, what happens when women live by the letter of the law, according to Quest's interpretation of the bible. I have taken the time to explain what kind of culture arises out of your belief system. Now to further explain, culture is not living godly, and culture does not only encompass Believers. When I use the term, "American culture", I'm not talking about Christianity or the bible, at all.

    So, culture and belief has nothing to do with being a Believer, or even divorce, at all.

    Your view and a strict adherence to your view, gave rise to women becoming bitter. It is the truth. It is what it is. Sanger's voice was loud and strong because women were forced to have a busload of children, with men that abandoned them, and left them destitute and in poverty. Again, your trite speech about bitterness is cold, calculating, and disengaged from reality. My grandmother didn't seem to have a bitter bone in her body. She was warm, loving, honorable, read the Word for an hour every day, seemed to have a special way with animals (not just her parakeet, but she could get squirrels to eat out of her hand....literally). She was awesome!

    Thing is....your robotic-sounding responses simply do not address in specific terms, what I said. I honestly think it's because you can't. You'd rather keep quoting scripture. But that's ok.....I need to get offa this thing. Be blessed, sis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    The Bible says otherwise Catchy..


    Ephesians 4:31

    Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil-speaking, be put away from you, with all malice,



    Hebrews 12:15
    11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.

    12 Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, 13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.

    14 Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled; 16 that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. 17 For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears.

    Bitterness is a choice for the believer...

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    I wondered that too, but didn't dare touch it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle View Post
    Are you calling a beating by a husband discipline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Astonished is indeed the correct word.

    Hopefully Quest will respond to the questions posed to her about whether or not she would consider going back to her first husband if feasible ?
    I already did Bap...go back and read my testimony...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle View Post
    Are you calling a beating by a husband discipline?
    No...I the discipline of the LORD is the work He does in us to transform us when we are IN difficult situations from the inside out by the power of the Holy Spirit..

    Bitterness is the result when we refuse His discipline and choose our own path..

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