CatchyUsername (09-04-2015), FresnoJoe (09-28-2015)
Love defined by scripture is sometimes different from the world's definition of love.
Love has to be defined as a strng desire for the BEST for another and it HELPS to have clarity on what that term BEST actually would look like from God's perspective. I will lovingly warn you about the cliff ahead. Now you, on the other hand might ask me to show I love you by jumping off that cliff with you..which one is actually LOVE??
The world says it's unloving to tell someone something is a sin that will carry them to Hell...is it more loving to NOT tell them?
Love can only be defined accurately by the redemptive work of Jesus..For GOD so loved the world that He gave Himself for it, that whosoever believes, (places their trust in HIM) shall not perish but have eternal life.
The mocking that Christians experience because they stand on that truth as THE NLY truth there is, is astounding. THAT truth is dubbed by many as HATE SPEECH.
The Bible tells us that children don't like discipline yet the parent that loves that child WILL discipline them...
Love sometimes has to say NO in order to remain genuine..love that lies against the truth to another is NOT love.
CatchyUsername (09-04-2015), FresnoJoe (09-28-2015), krystian (09-04-2015), Monkfish (09-04-2015), Romans828 (09-04-2015)
Catchy, Quest, you two both do my head in, but for some reason you do both absolutely make me smile
Well, I'm glad I make you smile...I think.
BTW Monkeeman.....since we have already had this discussion and I'm sure you missed it, all of the Christians here, even the "dogmatic" ones, have made it very clear that we would decline a wedding invitation in a gracious, loving, manner. No one that posts here believes in being harsh, mean, or rude, when interacting with a gay person.
So with that in mind, if you are wondering HOW we would decline the invite, we would simply say, "I respect the fact that you are getting married, but as you are aware, my Christian convictions simply would not allow me to attend." The point I repeatedly made is this. *IF* you get a lot of manipulation and pressure from your gay "friend", then that is not a relationship based on love and trust. Any gay person should understand the Christian POV, and that is why it's important to make that clear at the beginning of the friendship. If the gay person feels that the Christian has been endorsing the relationship all along, then one has to wonder why that is.
Again....treat everyone with love, kindness, and respect. Endorse their sin....no.
I just hope, for everyone's sake, none of us is put in that position.
I don't think any of us can say, with certainty, exactly what we'd do.
Interesting to muse though.
FresnoJoe (09-28-2015), Romans828 (09-04-2015), Valiant Woman (08-07-2016)
FresnoJoe (09-28-2015), Romans828 (09-04-2015), Valiant Woman (08-07-2016)
I understand... Equally, I had imagined the other half of that conversation whereby in the event you were to be invited, there would probably be some sort of "I understand you do not want to endorse this and do not agree with it, but as my friend I wanted you to understand you are invited" thing. Otherwise if your friends didn't get that in the first place they're not very good friends ;)
Actually, it's interesting because I get where you're coming from with not wanting to look like you support it. (Generally speaking, I don't think you should be forced into pretending you support it if you don't)
The strangest bit was thinking "Why wouldn't you go to a friend's wedding???" (Hence my earlier question :) )
FresnoJoe (09-28-2015)
FresnoJoe (09-28-2015)