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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Time is the revealer of truth and it was only a matter of time before Young revealed what he believed
    Cardinal...that is not a different statement from the others....He said all along Jesus has already said I DO and now it is our turn...

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    Cardial, Nikos and FT....you entered the topic with a made up mind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    He contradicts God's Word just like God's Word tells us would be happening in the end times... based on God's warnings, ALL popular teachers are suspect and their teachings must be compared to scripture.

    Not doing this is why there is so much false teaching going around... people want their ears tickled, and there is a never ending supply of preachers who are will to do some tickling and make a lot of money in the process as well as gain notoriety.

    Those that are not going back to the foundational teachings of Jesus and His Apostles (the ones in the Word of God, not these yahoos claiming to be apostles today, claiming they have new revelation not found in God's Book)... are being deceived.
    What he has to say about that was said in both the videos and numerous quotes..he does not believe everyone will be saved...not sure how many ways he has to say it for you and Cardinal and Nikos to understand...he does not believe everyone will accept salvation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Cardinal...that is not a different statement from the others....He said all along Jesus has already said I DO and now it is our turn...
    All I can see in the quote is that Jesus has saved us all prior to and apart from choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    No doubt, if what FT presented is true, the man is indeed a universalist. I did look over the contents on Amazon.com and was a little disturbed over the chapter titles. He believes that he is not a separation from God as one of the chapters stated. Not sure what he has to say about Jesus' saying "depart from me" in Matt. 25:41?


    ALL he is saying is God has already given the GIFT...Already done all HE has to DO for all to be saved....

    He is a 'hopeful universalist'. He HOPES in the end everyone will but does not believe scripture supports that...

    Once again...taken out of context...but I am so tired of saying that.....I am done...

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    Or maybe he has changed/adjusted his tune = the verse I quoted.

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    I am not sure how Calvinist got in the mix...but the man is clear in his book....he is, if one MUST label him, a hopeful universalist..by definition a hopeful universalist knows scripture states some will not be saved but he is hopeful God has away He did not disclose...

    Calvinist? He denies the, unequivocally,determinism of both Calvin and Universalism...state that exactly.

    Nor does he state anywhere that God's love is irresistible...but has in fact refuted that claim by stating he does not believe everyone will receive salvation..he stated that..

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    I do disagree with him on his perspective of Hell though...

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    In an other thread there was a facebook quote by his universalist friend who basically disclosed that he's really a universalist.

    "who secretly introduce destructive heresies"

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    The quote FT showed is serious error and Young is revealing what he believes. What is his motive for his latest book and what are the "lies" the church believes about God

    Jesus did not make every person "in Christ" .....that only happens by faith

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