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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I'm not so sure the Holy Spirit is feminine just because of that verse and the passage from proverbs about wisdom. The NT says that he is the spirit of the Father and of Jesus and they are both masculine. Can you find any verse in the NT where he is connected to anything feminine ?
    It' not just that verse...If you search Strongs you will find MANY. For the sake of time I just found 1 to verify personhood and feminine voice....


    Transliteration

    ruwach

    Pronunciation

    rü'·akh (Key)



    Part of Speech

    feminine noun

    Root Word (Etymology)

    From רִיחַ (H7306)


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    TWOT Reference: 2131a


    KJV Translation Count — Total: 378x

    The KJV translates Strong's H7307 in the following manner: Spirit or spirit (232x), wind (92x), breath (27x), side (6x), mind (5x), blast (4x), vain (2x), air (1x), anger (1x), cool (1x), courage (1x), miscellaneous (6x).

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    So the question is why did translators decide to use the pronoun HE for a gender neutral word that was a feminine noun throughout the OT?

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    The Church is rendered as feminine, as the bride of Christ. Does that mean that the Church has a motherly role ? Yes, probably. 2 John suggests that the local churches were seen as mothers with many children. See the first and last verses.

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    The NT consistently uses a word that can mean he/she/it where English differentiates between the three, so there isn't much to derive from that. Maybe from the gender of the title of the Holy Spirit as helper in John 14:26, if you can find that.

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    Seems we would need a comparison of the passages to see what makes the distinction first being fully persuaded that all the feminine nouns were Holy Spirit specific and maybe if the other 'spirit' scriptures were more generic...?

    But that does not explain the sudden and total shift of the NT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    But that does not explain the sudden and total shift of the NT...
    Because the NT reveals more of who the Godhead are in their being not just what they do

    The Holy Spirit is 100% masculine as he is the Spirit of the Father...its no rocket science


    Believers can end up in serious error by trying to find every nuance of word to justify their own reasonings

    This will offend but it is what it is.....the Holy Spirit has revealed himself to some people as a person - it's very rare but it has happened
    One such person SAW the face of the Holy Spirit and it was a male face......he is a credible witness

    You can find beleivers who have had face to face encounters with the Godhead who will testify of God's masculinity

    There are no credible witnesses who have had face to face encounters with God and testify he is feminine - you can find some but they are deceived and in major error

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    I will raise an IRONIC point

    What currently is the 'spirit' behind alot of contention and confusion and causing major concerns in western society?
    The spirit being gender confusion - we need to think about this

    This spirit is trying to infiltrate every area of society including the church

    Christians now question God's gender and want to make him neutral or even feminine - isn't this the same spirit currently causing problems????


    I will say it clearly - it's a major demonic spirit who is twisting and deceiving society to embrace gender lies and it has reached the highest political positions
    This same spirit will do everything to also attack God's gender and try to deceive the church under many guises

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    What happens when male believers who struggle with homosexuality or female believers in general are told that the Holy Spirit who dwells in them and is upon them is a male ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    What happens when female believers or male believers who struggle with homosexuality are told that the Holy Spirit who dwells in them and is upon them is a male ?
    The same thing when you tell them David and Jonathan were not gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    The same thing when you tell them David and Jonathan were not gay
    Are you saying that the two were as intimate as the Holy Spirit is with a believer and yet they were not gay ? Or is that just a poor comparison ?

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