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Originally Posted by
FaithfulOne
Continue to hope and wish Quest..I hope and pray you are correct in your assumptions.
BTW, the Obamas were scandal-free during their eight year stint...good marriage, intelligent children..carried themselves with grace and dignity. Ideology aside, they show(ed) more class than this current group of folk.
Sorry FO, ideology that killed millions of babies cannot be cast aside ..
Ideology that promotes what the bible calls an abomination is not fruit of the spirit ...it is exactly what the bible calls it an abomination.
Ideology that hates Isreal is not Fruit of the Spirit..It is Amelakian , Anti-Christ
What you call Grace and Dignity is what I consider fine Hollywood marketing and I find it somewhat bewildering that you cant seem to tell the difference anymore.
Yes trump is crude, boorish and has many faults (Sounds Just like a couple of Jesus disciples) but his proposed POLICIES are very much in line with the word ... why you cant seem to make the distinction is beyond me .
The tree of Knowledge of Good and evil had plenty of "Good" in it. It was good to the eye and appealed to the lusts of the flesh in many ways but it still brought DEATH
Showing "Class" will only get you so far in the Kingdom of God ..In fact its the foolish and abased things that God uses to confound the wise .. Think on that
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Originally Posted by
FaithfulOne
Continue to hope and wish Quest..I hope and pray you are correct in your assumptions.
BTW, the Obamas were scandal-free during their eight year stint...good marriage, intelligent children..carried themselves with grace and dignity. Ideology aside, they show(ed) more class than this current group of folk.
Scandal Free ???? Like seeking the IRS on Political Enemies ? Like Targeting Christian Businesses through the ACLU and other like groups ?
Seriously whose side are you on ?
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Originally Posted by
FaithfulOne
Like I said to BAP, where exactly did he LIE re: Trump's character? you all are projecting your Godly, evangelical worldview on this man like he's saved and Spirit-filled, but nothing could be further than the truth.
Like many christians, liberals, msms, hollywood etc all thought Obama was the messiah who was going to save America
Obama was a snake in the grass...but its ok because he was graceful, talked smooth, was classy ( reminds me of another snake in Eden - that snake was also classy and graceful and very very cunning)
I'm sure God will say to Obama and Michelle - hey you guys are so classy enter into the kingdom, I will ignore your anti christian views like murdering kids and promoting gay abominations but your classiness and trendiness is so overwhelming I can't ignore it
When the real antichrist arrives he will be the classiest, coolest dude on the planet and billions will follow him
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Originally Posted by
BAP
Sorry FO, ideology that killed millions of babies cannot be cast aside ..
Ideology that promotes what the bible calls an abomination is not fruit of the spirit ...it is exactly what the bible calls it an abomination.
Ideology that hates Isreal is not Fruit of the Spirit..It is Amelakian , Anti-Christ
What you call Grace and Dignity is what I consider fine Hollywood marketing and I find it somewhat bewildering that you cant seem to tell the difference anymore.
Yes trump is crude, boorish and has many faults (Sounds Just like a couple of Jesus disciples) but his proposed POLICIES are very much in line with the word ... why you cant seem to make the distinction is beyond me .
The tree of Knowledge of Good and evil had plenty of "Good" in it. It was good to the eye and appealed to the lusts of the flesh in many ways but it still brought DEATH
Showing "Class" will only get you so far in the Kingdom of God ..In fact its the foolish and abased things that God uses to confound the wise .. Think on that
BAP, I'm not as stupid as you seem to think.
Just because you and other "evangelicals" (really what does that mean, anymore??) harp on one or two pet issues doesn't mean God ignores Fruit of the Spirit.
I posted back after Scalia died something by a blogger, I don't remember his name, that for forty ++ years, the so-called 'christian right' has not done one single solitary thing to end abortion, even with Scalia on the SC so how in the sam hill would one think Trumpet can do it? Yes, he'll appoint a conservative to the SC but again, abortion is still legal, has been for decades, even though Reagan and both Bushes said they would work on ending it. The same folk who claimed to be Christians, and were voted in by and large by Christian conservatives.
But back to the 'fruit of the Spirit--Yes, I STILL SAY the Obamas displayed more "fruit" than this current batch of fools--and BAP, while you are wondering how and why I think this, I wonder as well why you and some others here are IGNORING what Trump IS... NOT was, but IS. (Jeremiah 13:23--"Can an Ethiopian change his skin or a leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil")
But aside from that, it's only been a few days and this Trumped up group of his holding offices has clearly shown they don't know what they're doing. I don't know if I can take anymore 'alternative facts' coming out that shrill Kellyanne Conway's mouth...I'm glad the media is all up in these people's faces, and I hope at this point Cheeto either resigns before 2020 or just does four years and a more suitable person runs to defeat him.
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Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
Like many christians, liberals, msms, hollywood etc all thought Obama was the messiah who was going to save America
Obama was a snake in the grass...but its ok because he was graceful, talked smooth, was classy ( reminds me of another snake in Eden - that snake was also classy and graceful and very very cunning) And you know this how? You know Obama personally? You may not have liked his policies, but unless you know for fact his moral character, you are wrong in calling him that.
I'm sure God will say to Obama and Michelle - hey you guys are so classy enter into the kingdom, I will ignore your anti christian views like murdering kids and promoting gay abominations but your classiness and trendiness is so overwhelming I can't ignore it
See my response to BAP--it might surprise you who God regards as righteous and not righteous--(see Luke 18: 9-14)
When the real antichrist arrives he will be the classiest, coolest dude on the planet and billions will follow him
How many antichrists are you expecting?
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His moral character is exposed supporting and pushing an abomination of gay rights straight from the pit of hell
Isaiah 5:20 - Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
It ain't pretty what the prophets and Jesus mean when they use WOE
Woe to those who call good evil and evil good............President Obama has called an abomination good
He has called darkness light....men marrying men and women marrying woman, Men and women changing gender and children being deceived
THESE ARE MORAL ISSUES
You can argue with God since you really don't want to hear the truth
No one on this forum has admitted Trump is perfectly moral.....he has said and done terrible immoral things and it has been exposed
On a earlier thread before the election I likened him to a baboon for the way he acts
This is Trumps chance to redeem himself personally and as president...we will all know in 4 years
After 8 years Obama has not been a moral president no matter how classy he seems to you
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If a preacher publically said he supported and endorsed gay marriage even though he was a heterosexaul and looked after his wife and children
I would call that minister immoral in character
True Morality is based on God's character and God never condones sin or abominations
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Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
His moral character is exposed supporting and pushing an abomination of gay rights straight from the pit of hell
Isaiah 5:20 - Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
It ain't pretty what the prophets and Jesus mean when they use WOE
Woe to those who call good evil and evil good............President Obama has called an abomination good
He has called darkness light....men marrying men and women marrying woman, Men and women changing gender and children being deceived
THESE ARE MORAL ISSUES
You can argue with God since you really don't want to hear the truth
No one on this forum has admitted Trump is perfectly moral.....he has said and done terrible immoral things and it has been exposed
On a earlier thread before the election I likened him to a baboon for the way he acts
This is Trumps chance to redeem himself personally and as president...we will all know in 4 years
After 8 years Obama has not been a moral president no matter how classy he seems to you
Who has made you or anyone else on this forum the judges of Truth?
Ya'll didn't like Obama, fine I get that, I got it when he was in the WH.
But I reserve the right to not like Cheeto Trumpy, him and the rest of his whiter than white misogynist crew.
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Originally Posted by
Valiant Woman
I agree with Vicki wholeheartedly! Jesus has been brought back to the White House after an 8 year absence!! HALLELUJAH!!! Glory to God in the highest! Whew!
God heard our prayers and answered! We got a reprieve! God bless President Donald Trump and GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
I agree, God Bless America. (Or Amerikkka, which I fear we may be headed toward)
The rest of your post, meh.
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