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Thread: The Gay Rabbi and My Mother's Funeral - Michael Brown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Was his mother saved?
    I couldn't tell from the couple of articles written by him after her death. But I'm assuming if she had been he would have clearly stated she was with the Lord.

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    It was his mom too...

    If one has to choose to be true unto the Lord and opting out... being true to the Lord should be first meaning he should not be in agreement with the unbelieving gay guy doing his own mom's funeral... his own mom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    It was his mom too...

    If one has to choose to be true unto the Lord and opting out... being true to the Lord should be first meaning he should not be in agreement with the unbelieving gay guy doing his own mom's funeral... his own mom!
    My thinking would be if this happened to me...
    His sister isn't saved and it's possible there could be a giant family battle over the funeral.....for the sake of peace and giving a good witness to his sister and other unsaved family maybe he chose not to cause an issue

    If he caused contention maybe the family would use it to attack his Christian faith and it would be harder to witness to them.

    She is dead but they are still living and he wants them saved

    Jesus said ...Let the dead bury the dead

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    Letting his sister wear the pants in the family is obviously a problem... it was his mother too, so he should take the leadership role and either make the change or opt out of the service.

    2 of my siblings have converted to catholicism... and our mom is up in the years, so some day when she passes I'd imagine I will be faced with having to deal with them wanting to have her service at a catholik church with a priest doing the service... I will tell them this is ungodly because catholicism is not of God and there ain't no purgatory so I'll have to opt out of the service and not attend if this is what they decide to do.

    In other words, we gonna have a come to Jesus meeting over this and the devils that are driving this situation will be all upset claiming I'm being a bigot, mean, rude, and whatever other adjectives they want to throw at me... but, none the less I am a Christian and it is my calling to advocate for Jesus Christ being Lord and my Bible does not teach me to compromise like Micheal Brown is doing not only in this situation but also in his standing with false teacher Bill Johnson.

    I've enjoyed much of his teaching and I enjoy his ability to speak truth in a nice way... but sadly he is starting to cave just like some many other ministers as satan is throwing a lot of fuel on the great falling away and deceiving people in to thinking that sometimes it's OK to compromises what God's Word teaches.

    It's a sad situation, but God said this would happen in the end times... He was right.
    I'm sure that will be a strong witness to your family....not.

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    Romans 12:18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at*peace*with all*men.

    Hebrews 12:14 Pursue*peace*with all*men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.

    You know, if I had applied the sum of all the advice Farm Truck has been giving in his 3000 posts here the last two years, I would have turned into the nuttiest, most bigotted Christian of our times.

    I'm not saying that he himself is that, not at all.





    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    My thinking would be if this happened to me...
    His sister isn't saved and it's possible there could be a giant family battle over the funeral.....for the sake of peace and giving a good witness to his sister and other unsaved family maybe he chose not to cause an issue

    If he caused contention maybe the family would use it to attack his Christian faith and it would be harder to witness to them.

    She is dead but they are still living and he wants them saved

    Jesus said ...Let the dead bury the dead

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    My thinking would be if this happened to me...
    His sister isn't saved and it's possible there could be a giant family battle over the funeral.....for the sake of peace and giving a good witness to his sister and other unsaved family maybe he chose not to cause an issue

    If he caused contention maybe the family would use it to attack his Christian faith and it would be harder to witness to them.

    She is dead but they are still living and he wants them saved

    Jesus said ...Let the dead bury the dead

    If that's the case, he should opt out and let the dead bury the dead... he should have stood for godliness rather than being unequally yoked with gay unbelievers.





    I'm sure that will be a strong witness to your family....not.
    And... how would it work if I cave in and put myself in agreement with the ways of men instead of the ways of God and these people think Christians are in agreement with all religions (ecumentical) and they all end up in hell not knowing Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation???

    If I did that, then I have sinned before God. If the salt has lost it's savor, it's useless!

    So much for taking a stand for what the Lord teaches in His Word. People are watching to see if Christians are true to God and when we cave in and become in agreement with other religions, and sinful lifestyles then they discount us and know that we are hypocrites.

    Of course they get upset if we are not "seeker sensitive" and agree with whatever their lifestyle is... but if we stand for the Lord then they are least know that God must be real cause we refuse to depart from the living God just to please men.




    if I had applied the sum of all the advice Farm Truck has been giving in his 3000 posts here the last two years, I would have turned into the nuttiest, most bigotted Christian of our times
    You forgot to add you would be rejecting what God says in favor of being cranally minded.



    I'm not saying that he himself is that, not at all.
    I don't care what you say, I'm advocating for what the Lord teaches in His Word concerning putting Him first. Your opinion of me is meaningless seeing that you are not the Lord.

    Too many of those that claim to be Christians are falling away unto doctrines of devils and traditions of men just like the Word foretold would happen in the last days.

    This happens when people put the "feelings" of others before what God says... it's not putting God first which is idolatry.

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    Honor your father and mother. The last act one can do for a parent is lay him or her to rest. I know you don't agree Farm Truck, but most of us don't believe in being a stumbling block.

    Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy.

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    It's a difficult situation, no question about it.

    If my Mom (R.I.P.) or one of my sisters insisted that an obviously *gay* priest, rabbi, pastor, whatever, gives the eulogy at her funeral, I would be torn...

    Should I attend out of respect to my dead relative (and bite my tongue) to keep "peace" in the family - Or - should I sit that one out and make up some "excuse" for not attending - Or - Should I just come out and say, "Sorry, but I cannot sit under the ministry of a gay person"

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    OK, I just asked Hubby, and he said...

    "You can attend a funeral without supporting the gay lifestyle of the minister"

    He also said "What if the minister was an adulterer or fornicator - Would you boycott the funeral because of that sin too?" (Because many of them are*)

    *We've been in ministry for almost 30 years, and we know for a fact that's true - One pastor even had twins by the wife of the deacon of his church)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    It's sad to see Michael Brown compromise like this.

    Christians should not be unequally yoked with unbelievers like this... no, I'm not advocating being mean or rude to anybody, but we have no business allowing gay people or those that do not embrace Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior doing the funeral of our momma.

    He's also embraced Bill Johnson at Bethel Church who is a false teacher teaching extra biblical revelation received from another jesus.

    It's par for course as the falling away gathers steam. What's so sad is these people placing what God's Word teaches secondary to what other people think and believe. Very sad indeed... but, he is without excuse having access to God's Word and the Holy Ghost who always leads us to the written Word as our sole source of Truth. If it doesn't agree with God's Word... it ain't truth.

    If Jesus (God's Word come in the flesh) is not absolutely first and foremost in one's life... they are guilty of idolatry, God will judge.
    Farm Truck, you are absolutely correct, in that we should live by the Word of God. However, you cannot pick and choose a scripture here and there to make your doctrines out of.

    You are sounding more like the Fred Phelps bunch than a true man of God.


    1 Corinthians 5:9-12 (NKJV)


    9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

    12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?

    I didn't read anywhere that the rabbi considered himself a Christian brother. Nope. In fact, he is lost, following false religious practices instead of following Christ.

    Your "unequally yoked" passage doesn't apply to the situation either. That passage is teaching us not to hang out or run with those who are not saved. It is not teaching us to stay away from them. Dr. Brown is walking in the light, and the true Light of Jesus Christ isn't afraid to shine INTO the darkness.

    You need to take off your religious glasses and dig into the whole counsel of God's word, brother.

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