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    Thank Adam I'm alive.

    Farm Truck posted this elsewhere
    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    Like I heard one fella say... if I see Adam in Heaven, I'm going to kick his aspirin bottle
    But if Adam hadn't sinned none of us would be alive and on our way to an eternity in heaven.

    Should we maybe thank him instead?

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    How is that ?

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    Also not understanding the point.

    I believe that it truly was God's wish that Adam and Eve not sin,
    so I don't see how their decision to go against God would be
    beneficial to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njtom View Post
    Also not understanding the point.

    I believe that it truly was God's wish that Adam and Eve not sin,
    so I don't see how their decision to go against God would be
    beneficial to anyone.
    I'm clueless. Does God lose the ability to create you and me unless Adam and Eve sins ? Sin-empowered divine omnipotence ? This one is pretty crazy, Oz-man.

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    I think he is trying to say that different humans would be born from non fallen Adam and Eve since we are the offspring of fallen Adam and Eve

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    God is the one who gives souls. If they hadn't sinned then I would eventually have been born into a sinless world and everything would have been allright.

    I suppose this will turn out to be yet another "secret" sovereign election thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    God is the one who gives souls. If they hadn't sinned then I would eventually have been born into a sinless world and everything would have been allright.

    I suppose this will turn out to be yet another "secret" sovereign election thread...

    You could of been born a non fallen Aussie and working for me as my servant which you would love to do since it would be a perfect world

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    Only if you had been an aboriginal.

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    An aboriginal Viking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    How is that ?
    Seriously?

    Adam and Eve had multiple kids. Because of sin Abel dies taking his gene's out of the gene pool. Also the sister he would have married now had different children by a different father making those genes different to what they would have been. Also Adam and Eve in the garden would not have been affected by tiredness or lust, two things that would have altered their sex life and probably the children they had.

    Also Cain and his wife are sent away so where there would have been cousins marrying this doesn't happen and so again changed the gene mix.

    And we have the whole world except Noah and family wiped out again removing 99% of the then gene pool.

    Then there was Babel which seperated gene pools.

    Then take into account the known and unknown bastards in our ancestory (i.e. people who should have never existed - even Jesus had one of those) and children from marriages after invalid divorces, and populations that exist only because people moved and met as a result of wars etc. there's no way we would have ended up with the population we have today if there was no sin.

    If Adam and Eve were still alive (and here) then they would still be having kids (thousands by now) and so adding those initial genes back into the gene pool again making it different from what it is now.

    And we wouldn't have gene mutations that cause sickness and sterility and lots of other things, again changing the gene pool.

    Different gene pool, different people, no you and me.

    "Thanks Adam"

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