Thread: Christian Mum who killed Daughters

I would love to actually disagree with my own comments but my conscience and reading of scripture wont allow me.
If God showed me otherwise I wouldn't be offended but humbly repent and submit



Let me ask a question...Would we be offended if God told us our loved ones where in hell and we were wrong in making excuses for their lives and presuming on his grace

Originally Posted by GodismyJudge

As usual, you never actually address the substance or point of my posts.

You just like to pontificate.

You screenname is well chosen.

Why do you have to resort to personal abuse even though you recently posted about slander and evil speaking


I had no idea about your brother and was not referring personally to him in this story or referring to anyone elses loved one on this forum.

My OP was in relation to a public news item of murder by a believer.


This is of vital concern to all as it pertains to eternal life and is more important than my loved ones or anyone elses loved ones

By your personal response it is clear you are affected by emotion. I understand that but it should not allow us to dismiss comments about the dangers of missing salvation

Originally Posted by GodismyJudge

I'll say it real slow.

You can't make that call concernig mental illness and accountability before God.

Only God can.

You are now putting mental illness on a class of its own...why is that different to homosexuals who put their same sex attraction in a different class

Why are you moving the goal posts????

I have been on this forum for years and all of us have seen believers and even big time leaders 'move the goalposts' in regard to certain behavior and sin
Most have recognised this and have expressed disapproval but are we 'moving the goalposts' about mental illness

In saying this I definitely know God is compassionate towards those suffering with mental illness and wants them healed but it is not our right to put our feelings on scripture regarding this even if a loved one has battled or is currently battling this

Originally Posted by A.J.

Back to the OP .... mental illness is quite different than unrepentant deliberate sin, yes?

Just my own opinion, but if a person reaches the age of accountability for them, and doesn't get saved, then goes into mental illness, etc, they die unsaved (unless somehow they do get saved in their mental illness). They had their opportunity while they were in their right mind. If they are saved, and go into mental illness, I don't think God necessarily holds that against them, such as suicide because they are mentally ill. But I can't say for sure what happens to the saved that becomes mentally ill and then commits murder, etc, although on the surface it seems no different than the suicide issue.

Just in case people think I am unmerciful .

I have seen mental illness close up in families and it has also touched my family. It is horrible and evil and I long to see miracles of deliverance for those suffering
Even in the midst of mental illness people have choices and they can still make decisions

The same dilemma applies to drug addicts who commit crimes in a drug induced stage but we don't move goalposts for them

Academia no longer believe in 'sin' and its classified in various medical language

According to mans thinking no one should really be in hell as sin does not exist and man is not accoutable. Every bad action is only due to different chemical
reactions in the brain and how can man be held responsible for our internal wiring.
Is God unjust that any human is in hell?

I am more than happy if Moderators believe it is in the best interests of the forum to delete this thread.
You can privately PM them and not make it public

I do want anyone to have any grief or pain by discussing this topic and as I previously stated was not aware of who has suffered due to mental illness either personally or by a loved one

I apologize for any hurt I have caused

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

I am more than happy if Moderators believe it is in the best interests of the forum to delete this thread.
You can privately PM them and not make it public

I do want anyone to have any grief or pain by discussing this topic and as I previously stated was not aware of who has suffered due to mental illness either personally or by a loved one

I apologize for any hurt I have caused

I don't have a dog in this hunt, but many believe as you do. I feel as I explained above. But I certainly don't have any definitive answers. I just see it as your opinion just as mine is an opinion. I can't say how what you have written makes GIMJ feel, but you're just stating your opinion IMO. No harm no foul as far as I'm concerned. GIMJ may feel different, but I think he can discuss this without being offended or hurt. I think.