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    I don't think he was the copy cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    I don't think he was the copy cat.
    His prophecies were all false, at any rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    Satan inspires a radical to murder people and God gets blamed? Hardly...IMHO God is ignored and even rejected by many and then when tragedy strikes them they blame Him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    This is the age of grace, of the propagation of the gospel. God postpones judgment and calls people to repent instead.
    Jesus said that the world is already condemned..John 3:16-18

    Seems to me we see the world functioning under condemnation..and reaping what they sow. God does not have to issue random judgments on any given location or people group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    Or ATL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    God, by His Holy Spirit, warns us of impending danger; either we are dull of hearing, or we ignore the warning thinking we're just being paranoid. Somebody in that church (North Carolina), particularly the pastor or church leaders should have discerned something wasn't right with that man. IJS
    Maybe..but remember Paul was WARNED by the Holy Spirit that his directive from God was going to lead to 'bonds'. So just to caveat, not all ho die like this died because they failed to listen...during that event the Holy Spirit could very well have been using them to issue one last call to that killer...like Paul holding the coat of those who stoned Stephen...later he became a great man of God...Listening sometimes shows us an earthly escape and sometimes prepares us for no earthly escape..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Maybe..but remember Paul was WARNED by the Holy Spirit that his directive from God was going to lead to 'bonds'. So just to caveat, not all ho die like this died because they failed to listen...during that event the Holy Spirit could very well have been using them to issue one last call to that killer...like Paul holding the coat of those who stoned Stephen...later he became a great man of God...Listening sometimes shows us an earthly escape and sometimes prepares us for no earthly escape..
    I disagree. Paul had a specific call. He was told by Jesus all he would suffer for Him before Paul responded to and accepted the call.

    There is no comparison or correlation to a what God did in Paul's life and ministry to that of the Christian victims of terrorist attacks or mass murder, and certainly God doesn't use people as pawns to be maliciously murdered for some diabolical plan. The notion that God "shows us an earthly escape and prepares no earthly escape" is totally against scripture that He ALWAYS provides an escape.

    It's the doctrine of demons that asserts that God doesn't warn us of impending danger and provides no escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    It all depends on how one interprets "God's wrath". If one means that God actually decreed, willed and ordained what happened in Orlando then I strongly and vehemently disagree with their understanding of what it means for God to have wrath.

    On the other hand, if we define God's wrath in the way that it is revealed in Scripture in which God removes His hand of protection and allow sinners to have their way then I positively absolutely agree (see 2 Chron. 12:5-7; Psalm 78:49-50; Romans 1:18, 24-28 just to name a few). When we persist in doing what we want and shaking our fist in God's face and telling Him that we want nothing to do with Him then He will give us exactly what we want. He will leave us alone. Sadly, leaving us alone leaves us open to evil forces that are already waiting to destroy us, just waiting for the hedge of protection to be removed.

    The homosexual community has told God that they don't want Him. Most of America has with our diversity of sin. God is heartbroken but what choice does He have but to let us have what we want along with its consequences. This is how Scriptre defines God's wrath.
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    What I have observed in regards to what happened in Orlando so far, are so called "men of God" speaking from both ditches, without anyone speaking the truth.

    We have the one camp who declares that this is judgement basically because "God hates fags". And then we have the other group who say that we need to love each other to the point of condoning the sins committed by the LGBT community as if everyone is o.k. in God's eyes.

    But I have yet to hear anyone on a news interview declare that God is not responsible for this horrendous act-it is the devil who comes to kill, steal & destroy.

    God so loved the world (including homosexuals, adulterers, fornicators, pedophiles, and any other sexually perverted persons you can name) that He sent Jesus to wipe away their sins, set them totally free from their sins, and make them a new creation in Christ, bringing them into His eternal kingdom. However, if they do not repent of their sins and put their faith in Christ to save them from them then they bring condemnation/judgment upon themselves and will suffer the eternal consequences for their sins.

    Sadly, those who died in that attack thinking that God was o.k. with them just as they were have now become like the rich man who cried out for Lazarus to dip his finger in water and quench his eternal thirst because he was in torment. Perhaps many of them perished in this state because no one LOVED them enough to tell them the Truth.

    The crowd who is crying out "Love, love, love....." has no idea that true love will warn you when you are in danger of perishing into eternal torment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    I don't think he was the copy cat.

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