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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    Don't forget that it seems that Jesus appeared in a room with the doors shut in John 20:19&26, and He vanished into thin air in Luke 24:31, and Yet doubting Thomas was able to feel his wounds. We don't have enough understanding of angels to know how they manifested on the earth. We do have biblical accounts of them wrestling, eating and drinking. So I don't believe that we can totally rule out that they can have physical attributes.
    Jesus already had his glorified body there. Spirits don't have those. And they may have 'physical' attributes, but they are made out of spirit, they are not carbon based. And devils aren't fallen angels anyway, they're disembodied spirits.

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    Demons have the ability to manifest in the physical realm. I can still vividly remember waking up during the night and being choked and gasping for breathe. It was just as real as any human hands trying to strangle me. I was fighting to breathe and stumbled from my bedroom into the laundry.
    I could not say a word which makes it worse as you want to call out to God for help. The only thing I could do was to scream JESUS in my mind and it broke.

    I had to sit myself down and recover from that experience as it was incredibly real. This happened on 2 other occasions.

    I have a friend who was praying and he felt the physical force of being violently pushed in his back and he nearly landed on a glass coffee table which would of caused serious injury.

    We don't understand how its possible but demons can manifest in the physical where a person is having literal sex and feels all the physical sensations.

    There are many many real stories of believers experiencing physical attacks.
    Demons can turn light switches on and off, they can pick up physical objects and throw them, slam doors etc

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    Those demons have to work that hard at it because you arent receiving anything. A demon who has managed to attach itself to soemone has an easier job of creating physical sensations, it may amount to nothing more than playing on strings in their minds. Demon infested people may experience a lot of phenomena that seem physically real to them but arent necessarily, like Satan showing up in the flesh, being abducted to spaceships etc and it can amount to little more than demons playing on strings inside their minds. A surveillance video of Bobby Brown could possibly have shown him masturbating while his memory of it was that a ghost was doing it all. As an example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Demons have the ability to manifest in the physical realm. I can still vividly remember waking up during the night and being choked and gasping for breathe. It was just as real as any human hands trying to strangle me. I was fighting to breathe and stumbled from my bedroom into the laundry.
    I could not say a word which makes it worse as you want to call out to God for help. The only thing I could do was to scream JESUS in my mind and it broke.

    I had to sit myself down and recover from that experience as it was incredibly real. This happened on 2 other occasions.

    I have a friend who was praying and he felt the physical force of being violently pushed in his back and he nearly landed on a glass coffee table which would of caused serious injury.

    We don't understand how its possible but demons can manifest in the physical where a person is having literal sex and feels all the physical sensations.

    There are many many real stories of believers experiencing physical attacks.
    Demons can turn light switches on and off, they can pick up physical objects and throw them, slam doors etc

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    demons can physically manifest themselves when they can get away with it. sexual contact with them is not uncommon in the pagan world. sometimes its through the human body and other times a direct manifestation between it and a human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    demons can physically manifest themselves when they can get away with it. sexual contact with them is not uncommon in the pagan world. sometimes its through the human body and other times a direct manifestation between it and a human.
    The question is if that "physical" manifestation would show up on a device that detects physical phenomena or if it merely appears physical to those who are participating. We don't really know to which extent it is the former, especially when they appear to take on flesh. Demons aren't omnipotent and there are some things that they are simply incapable of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    The question is if that "physical" manifestation would show up on a device that detects physical phenomena or if it merely appears physical to those who are participating. We don't really know to which extent it is the former, especially when they appear to take on flesh. Demons aren't omnipotent and there are some things that they are simply incapable of.
    Not really sure what you are getting at.

    Demons can influence the mind and make people think weird things but they can also manifest in this physical world. Yes they have limits but they can still do real physical things like pick up objects and throw them and it is not in the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Not really sure what you are getting at.

    Demons can influence the mind and make people think weird things but they can also manifest in this physical world. Yes they have limits but they can still do real physical things like pick up objects and throw them and it is not in the mind.
    Yes and there is a limit to what they can do. They can't put on flesh and live among us in the appearance of a human being, for instance. I doubt if the demons put on flesh even if all of the people present perceived them as doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Yes and there is a limit to what they can do. They can't put on flesh and live among us in the appearance of a human being, for instance. I doubt if the demons put on flesh even if all of the people present perceived them as doing so.
    No one has said demons have unlimited power and no one has even remotely said they put on flesh and live among us. You seem to be jumping to conclusions and going in a tangent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    No one has said demons have unlimited power and no one has even remotely said they put on flesh and live among us. You seem to be jumping to conclusions and going in a tangent.
    Wheeze : sometimes its through the human body and other times a direct manifestation between it and a human.
    The above could suggest that "a direct manifestation" refers to the demon taking on flesh during the encounter. That is why I bring it up.

    Just because I mention the fact that a demon isn't omnipotent nor can it live among us in the flesh, you have no right to assume that I'm directing that as an accusation against anyone unless I specify that it is. You are the one who is jumping to conclusions and going on tangents by doing this and I ask you to quit doing that from now on.

    The purpose of bringing it up was of course to set boundaries for what is possible and impossible, boundaries that I assume that we can all agree on, the exact opposite of what you are in the habit of reading into what I write.

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