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Thread: Spurgeon's, "Of Two Evils, Choose Neither," Doesn't Help Us With Trump

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    Spurgeon's, "Of Two Evils, Choose Neither," Doesn't Help Us With Trump

    Imagine our two families are miles from land in a sinking boat. Suddenly, out of the mist, come two boats to save us. One is captained by an adulterer; the other is captained by a thief. Which boat will you get into? You say, "Neither one. I'm waiting for the evangelical boat which is captained by a devout Christian who will end abortion." I say, "You're kidding, right?" You reply, "Both these guys are reprobates and I'm not going to choose between two evils."


    "Of two evils, choose neither." Spurgeon's quote has been posted numerous times on social media by Christians who find themselves in a moral conundrum at the very thought of voting for either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Here's the problem with Spurgeon's idea. Biblically, there is no such thing as a choice between two evils. Let me explain.

    Moral philosophers and theologians have long spoken of the problem of "tragic moral choice," also known as the "incommensurability in values." The man on the street simply calls it "choosing between the lesser of two evils."

    The best known example of tragic moral choice is the one about the Nazis during WW II. Do you handover the Jews you are hiding in your house knowing that your choice makes you complicit in their deaths? Or, do you lie and violate the Ninth Commandment? The Lutheran scholar, John Warwick Montgomery, has argued that such choices are unavoidable and of necessity cause us to sin...


    ...Now let's make sense of all of this. Imagine our two families are miles from land in a sinking boat. Suddenly, out of the mist, come two boats to save us. One is captained by an adulterer; the other is captained by a thief. Which boat will you get into? You say, "Neither one. I'm waiting for the evangelical boat which is captained by a devout Christian who will end abortion." I say, "You're kidding, right?" You reply, "Both these guys are reprobates and I'm not going to choose between two evils."

    You see what you've done? For one, you failed to prioritize scripturally. The immediate priority is to save our families so we can fight another day. Scripture passages against thievery and adultery simply don't apply here.

    Second, you confused an evil with a wrong. As bloody painful as it is for you to sit in the adulterer's boat on the way to dry ground, God doesn't view you as an adulterer. Neither does he view your choice to get your family into the boat as a "wrong."

    Right now our nation is sinking. And two boats are on the way. God is not asking you to pick between "the lesser of two evils." He asking you to: (1) Prioritize what Scripture prioritizes. (2) Distinguish an evil from a wrong...

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    A non vote is technically half a vote for Hillary and half a vote for Trump. Anything else is a matter of denying reality.

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    Personally, I'm waiting to see how things play out......I'm very undecided.

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    The thing is, it isn't like Trump is the first adulterer to run for potus. We have had many who sat in that office who were guilty of adultery. I can name names if you like, but they have all been public knowledge for a long time, we just didn't know it at the time.

    There is not an independent candidate who could garner enough votes to do any good. The more candidates you have running in a general election, the more likely you are to elect a candidate supported by fewer voters. A two party system works better than many are willing to admit. The majority of the people who vote elect the candidate. No vote cast? No voice.

    The old guard of the Republican Party simply refuse to admit that the majority of primary voters have spoken. Some more of that political snobbery, "obviously the voters are too stupid to know what is good for them!"

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    I am undecided but the struggle is more with either to vote for Trump or not vote at all. I certainly will NEVER vote for Hillary
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    I am undecided but the struggle is more with either to vote for Trump or not vote at all. I certainly will NEVER vote for Hillary
    Then Hillary Trump is your vote. Or Donald Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    A non vote is technically half a vote for Hillary and half a vote for Trump. Anything else is a matter of denying reality.

    No its not since its impossible to cast half a vote and they dont count half votes. A non vote is a zero vote for both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    No its not since its impossible to cast half a vote and they dont count half votes. A non vote is a zero vote for both
    Do you know what ? I'm not going to bother to argue with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Do you know what ? I'm not going to bother to argue with you.
    That's because I'm right

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    My view thus far, is that Trump isn't consumed with a spirit of anti-Christ(ian) hatred.

    And we all know that the Democrats are going to be more aggressively pursuing that very thing.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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