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    Cool Can Mormons be saved?

    Exactly, it sounds good and noble but you see what that thinking did in the last election...ultra liberal Obama won because Christians were pouting about voting for a Mormon even tho that Mormon held similar values and could have saved thousands of aborted babies.
    Krystian said that in another thread ... wanted to toss this "out there" ...

    I've always, always, always held that Mormons are not, cannot, simply AIN'T, saved. Their doctrine is pretty hideous and I don't know that we need to debate it past a certain point.

    Except that recently, through my oils business, I've gotten to know some Mormons on more than a casual level ... and in so doing, see their faith. Listen to them pray. Listen to them intercede when tragedy strikes (a teenage boy was severely burned in a fireworks explosion and fortunately lived and is thriving now). Listen to them worship Jesus. Even, on occasion like today, listen to them prophesy (a whole 'nother subject, there).

    I have to say I was surprised ...

    If the "standard" is Jesus (and I believe we all say that He's the standard), how much understanding of Him does one have to have in order to be saved? At one point does error "keep you out" ... and if error can keep you out, who's going to heaven, the baptists, the pentecostals, the catholics, or the lutherans? If you don't believe in free will (or, if you do) ... If you're an Arminian or a Calvinist (remember all those ugly debates ... in which you'd think we were discussing a different Jesus altogether)... or if you believe in future judgment, or if you believe judgment was settled on the cross? If you hold a sign that says "I'm a Christian, God hates fags" or you love fags, or you are a fag?

    And, given all of that .. are Mormons all that different outside that mix?


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    I'm not familiar with their core beliefs - Just heard bits and pieces...

    BUT, if they believe in the Virgin Birth, that Jesus is the Son of God (the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob), and in His death, burial and resurrection - Have confessed their sins and repented - Been Born Again, and accepted Him as their Savior and Lord, isn't that pretty much it?

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    "Can Mormons be saved?"

    Anybody can be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romans828 View Post
    I'm not familiar with their core beliefs - Just heard bits and pieces...

    BUT, if they believe in the Virgin Birth, that Jesus is the Son of God (the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob), and in His death, burial and resurrection - Have confessed their sins and repented - Been Born Again, and accepted Him as their Savior and Lord, isn't that pretty much it?
    Is it really all of that?

    Does one even have to KNOW that the birth was virgin, to be saved? Or can they believe it wasn't, and still be saved? Does one have to know who the Father is, what it means that Jesus is the Son, and the rest of that ... to be saved? Do they have to confess their sins? how many of them?

    Because if all of the above is required, I wasn't saved for about two weeks after I met Jesus in a face to face encounter and subsequently gave Him my life - only barely knowing of the crucifixion and resurrection, and not really sure what sin even was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    "Can Mormons be saved?"

    Anybody can be saved.

    Yes, silly.

    But can they STAY a Mormon, that is the question. Or, can they BE, or become, a Mormon, and be saved in the process of that, even though that leads them to many dubious practices and strange undies?

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    Who is their Jesus. Was he the spirit brother of lucifer as they maintain. When you pin them down with some important truths the demons come out at you !!!!They maintain they are saved because they have an experience called "burning in the bosom". It is a false salvation. Paul said there would be "another Gospel" and this is one of them. Kay, They are nice until you stir up the demons. Very demonic religion. Much more demonic than Jehovah Witnesses.

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    I agree with Lionheart
    They are very sincere and many are more dedicated to their beliefs than christians but they worship a 'different Jesus' and they have a 'false Holy Spirit'.
    Their gospel is total deception

    They worship a LIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaySharpe View Post
    Is it really all of that?
    You know, Sis, I was just kinda thinking out loud... I wasn't implying that someone had to embrace and understand ALL of that - BUT, the bottom line is that JESUS himself said, "You must be born again." - And if they can't testify of being born again, then I wonder.

    Edited to Add: And if what Lionheart says they believe is correct, then NO! - They are not saved.

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    ...They maintain they are saved because they have an experience called "burning in the bosom". ...
    I haven't interacted with any Mormons with the exception of a young man many years ago who worked for us for a summer doing construction.

    If I remember correctly, the "burning in the bosom" is actually supposed to be the confirmation to one that Mormonism is the Truth, and one is supposed to experience it at home alone asking God for this confirmation.

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    interesting thoughts! I'll throw in what my experience was years ago.. (we haven't been in cult evangelism, so there may be differences in their doctrine. sometimes their guy has a *prophecy* and they just change stuff.. so this is subject to that.)

    Since they don't believe in the One True and Living God, I'd say, more probably, no, they can't be "saved"

    Having said that.. I know that the Mormon church has grown to the numbers it is because they.. "poach" I think works, off of true Christian churches. So, I have to amend my original thought. I've know folks who left pretty basic church to join the LDS.

    They're actually pretty careful about newbies learning too much of their back history. We weren't particularly welcomed because we knew what questions to ask.

    So, Yes, someone who happens to be a member of the LDS can be saved, but, someone who's grown up and knows/understands their theology/Christology and believes that, most probably isn't.

    I hope I explained that so it's understandable.

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