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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    If u say so bro
    He fell in the money ditch long ago... too much money and false grace talk.

    He's just another preacher that does not know the whole counsel of God... which is most of the guys on TV now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    He fell in the money ditch long ago... too much money and false grace talk.

    He's just another preacher that does not know the whole counsel of God... which is most of the guys on TV now.
    OK, FT, Since you are making the accusation, you need to back them up with facts.
    1 - What is the "false grace" you are speaking of?
    2 - As far as money talk, Jesus spoke a LOT about money (so CD is in good company) - again, you need a better basis of criticism than that.
    3 - How amazing that you seem to know what CD "does not know". That is a HUGE claim! - have you had a conversation with him to make sure you have not misconstrued him? Have you studied the full structure of his body of teaching? -- proper research demands this. Can you find some area of agreement? That is a good place to start. All too often some relatively minor differences get overblown to an uncalled-for polarizing rhetoric.

    The burden of proving supposedly unbiblical/heretical accusation is on YOUR shoulders. This is DUE PROCESS: even the ungodly world understands this - let alone Christians, who should excel at making every opportunity to make sure they are not misunderstanding/misrepresenting someone else's point of view, or worse, bearing false accusation. (Remember Matt 12:36).

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    Romans 14:4
    Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.


    Romans 14:10-12
    (10) But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
    (11) For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    (12) So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.


    James 4:11-12
    (11) Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
    (12) There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    maybe but i know many who it does not work for and it frankly becomes a MLM scheme...
    No, and it won't work for many, but it has nothing to do with any so-called scheme. It's due to IGNORANCE. And of course, the erroneous teaching from ignorant preachers telling people that God uses sickness and poverty to keep them humble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan david View Post
    OK, FT, Since you are making the accusation, you need to back them up with facts.
    1 - What is the "false grace" you are speaking of?
    2 - As far as money talk, Jesus spoke a LOT about money (so CD is in good company) - again, you need a better basis of criticism than that.
    3 - How amazing that you seem to know what CD "does not know". That is a HUGE claim! - have you had a conversation with him to make sure you have not misconstrued him? Have you studied the full structure of his body of teaching? -- proper research demands this. Can you find some area of agreement? That is a good place to start. All too often some relatively minor differences get overblown to an uncalled-for polarizing rhetoric.

    The burden of proving supposedly unbiblical/heretical accusation is on YOUR shoulders. This is DUE PROCESS: even the ungodly world understands this - let alone Christians, who should excel at making every opportunity to make sure they are not misunderstanding/misrepresenting someone else's point of view, or worse, bearing false accusation. (Remember Matt 12:36).
    If it weren't for that grace message, there would be scores of Christians still in bondage to their past, caught up in a cycle of guilt and never experience any victory in their lives. Listening to him teach on grace for over a year freed me from some stuff I still held into w/o even realizing it.

    Thank God for pastor Creflo's obedience! There was a time I thought to myself, "ok, teach on something else now brother." But then I realized that the Lord has him teaching on grace for a season because so many believers still haven't grasped it. God wants people free, and sometimes it takes a while. I'm grateful we have a patient, compassionate longsuffering Father, willing that all be partakers of His amazing grace!
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