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    Well, imo, that's a small(er) issue. I think that NC took this stance because of stories like I just posted. But I dunno, I can't speak for NC.

    There are also stories of "transgendered" people who are attracted to both sexes, who demand access to the bathroom they want access too. There are just far too many potential abuses here, though I *think* the "sex you were born with" might go too far for someone who has had sex re-assignment.


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    Yep....this has been brought up a lot. They are big and bad here in the US where they have the right to speak out, move their business, etc...but when dealing with Muslim countries, they are silent.

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    did anyone else see the gov's response? he pointed out how PayPal has fingers in lots of other countries where homosexuality is not only illegal but punishable.
    hypocrisy.
    I'm still looking for a reasonable response from paypal

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    I hope people really start publicly pressing that issue with them about the other countries and make them answer it.

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    This article addresses some interesting questions regarding the law. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...b2-enforcement

    Will NC have police officers checking birth certificates at the entrances of public restrooms?

    Of course, North Carolina hasn't really unleashed an army of "bathroom-enforcement cadets" to guard public restrooms like bouncers at a club. But Borowitz's satire got me thinking: How will the state try to enforce its new law, which is the first of its kind to be enacted in the United States? So I picked up the phone and started calling some North Carolina police departments to find out.

    "That's a very interesting question. We don't have police officers sitting at public bathrooms all day long," a spokesman at the Raleigh Police Department told me with a laugh. Over in Greensboro, the state's third-most-populous city, I received a similar answer. "We would respond if we received a complaint. It's not like we would be standing guard at bathrooms," said Susan Danielsen, a spokeswoman for the local police department, also suppressing a laugh. At the Wilmington Police Department, spokeswoman Linda Rawley said the law struck her as strange. "So that means people have to go to the bathroom with birth certificates? Yeah, that was curious to me." At the Asheville Police Department, spokeswoman Christina Hallingse noted, "We're not checking birth certificates. We just don't have the police power to be able to do that in bathrooms."

    How will the law handle people who, outwardly, appear to be of one gender but are physically of the other gender?

    But even before police officers are called to the scene, there may be room for mishap. Without law enforcement on guard, it will likely be up to bathroom goers to report a problem if they see someone enter the room who doesn't appear to belong there—and appearances can be deceiving. As the Chapel Hill and Carrboro news site Chapelboro points out, hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery allow many transgender women to look like biological women, even if they don't have female birth certificates. "There are blurry lines," writes Chapelboro's Aaron Keck.


    I think the following, from the same article, is probably accurate:

    "The bill was passed by the state legislature in less than 10 hours and then signed by the governor that very same night with very little debate," Oakley says. "And so it's incredibly poorly drafted, leading to all kinds of consequences." The lack of enforcement guidance in the legislation also suggests "it's not motivated by solving a real problem," she says. "If it was, they would have spent more time understanding and actually addressing a problem. Instead they passed a law that is a political statement."

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    The mere fact that we are even discussing this shows how far off our nation is. God help us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatchyUsername View Post
    The mere fact that we are even discussing this shows how far off our nation is. God help us.
    Whether to have a bearded former woman go to the mens restroom or to the womens restroom is a very valid question, I think. According to the NC law, the person would be forced to go to the womens restroom which would then create the very problem that posters here want to avoid, namely to have people who look like men use womens restrooms and vice versa.

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    Whether to have a bearded former woman go to the mens restroom or to the womens restroom is a very valid question, I think. According to the NC law, the person would be forced to go to the womens restroom which would then create the very problem that posters here want to avoid, namely to have people who look like men use womens restrooms and vice versa.
    Well, in many public spaces, there are unisex bathrooms.

    I don't think you are understanding the knee jerk reaction people are having and WHY they are having it. I can post stories where perverts took advantage of stuff like this to spy on girls, and like I said, a well-known transgendered said specifically he was attracted to both sexes.

    Again, the LGBT's are using the law to heal their own mental health issues. Like the story I posted back. It simply wasn't enough for the transgendered kid to have their own accommodation and have their own separate changing room. No. He HAD to change with the girls because it hut his wittle feewings when he couldn't.

    It's this attitude, along with the other abuses that have ALREADY happened, that people are having a knee jerk attitude. As I said before, most malls and public spaces already have unisex bathrooms where anyone can go.

    Most of this is simply a very public hissy fit by the LGBT crowd and their silly, brainwashed, minions like PayPal et al.

    Since you don't live here, you really don't understand.

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    What I can see is that the severity of the law is easy to exploit for activists and then they demand the exact opposite. A law that says that one has to use the restroom that fits ones current, physical sex would be much easier to defend. The point is to protect the innocent, not to harass anyone.

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    that's a good point Catchy.. if it's identified as a unisex facility, I don't have any problem at all. (they are usually single room types so it's only the one person in there at a time.) You know what to expect. But, if it's identified as "men/women" then it needs to BE men and women separated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatchyUsername View Post
    Again, the LGBT's are using the law to heal their own mental health issues.
    Bingo.

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