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Thread: What do you think about choice? Emotionally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    I wasn't saved under reformed theology either, I was saved at a Charismatic tent meeting in 1973 and have attended that church ever since. But I spent 15 years hearing preacher after preacher urge people to "accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour" and be born again (unfortunately I no longer hear that but that's another story) and all the time I kept thinking "but that's not what happened to me".
    Hey, Oz,
    OK that helps me get a better idea of what you are getting at. Is your point here that urging people to "accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour" is not a choice they are making? IOW, that the preacher message has NO effect on what they will choose?

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    I have no emotion about God having the choice as he has divine prerogative in all things. But to hear God is an exhaustive micromanager makes me feel that God's nature has been deprecated - that would lead to severe discouragement, that no matter what I choose to do in my conscious mind and heart to pursue Christ - the die has been cast one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    I don't think that can be demonstrated Biblically.

    When He chose Noah, He didn't choose the others, when He chose Abraham, He didn't choose the others, when He chose [insert whoever here], etc, etc, etc.

    John is clear that no one can even see God until God opens our eyes. ONLY Jesus' sheep can even hear His voice.
    God doesn't desire that any perish:
    9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
    2 Peter 3:9

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