I trust people will comprehend what I am trying to say. I don't believe that Femme or FunfromOz will renounce Christ nor will their loved ones.
I am using a hypothetical to address the OP that having confidence in salvation because you are chosen is thin ice.
It does seem by the OP that chosen is more important than faith....sorry Oz if that's not the case
I can measure faith as it is based on Jesus Christ and the scriptures
How do you measure being chosen? Didn't everyone think Judas and Demas were chosen but look how the ended up.
I have no doubt FunfromOz Is saved and has real faith towards Christ which is the key but why concentrate on being chosen as if that is Our standard when no one knows 100% they are chosen until they get to heaven.
I hope that makes sense
IF a believers says ..how do I really know I am saved..how do we answer.
Do we say it's because you are chosen or it's because you have a living heart faith towards Christ