Thread: What do you think about choice? Emotionally?

I trust people will comprehend what I am trying to say. I don't believe that Femme or FunfromOz will renounce Christ nor will their loved ones.

I am using a hypothetical to address the OP that having confidence in salvation because you are chosen is thin ice.
It does seem by the OP that chosen is more important than faith....sorry Oz if that's not the case

I can measure faith as it is based on Jesus Christ and the scriptures

How do you measure being chosen? Didn't everyone think Judas and Demas were chosen but look how the ended up.

I have no doubt FunfromOz Is saved and has real faith towards Christ which is the key but why concentrate on being chosen as if that is Our standard when no one knows 100% they are chosen until they get to heaven.

I hope that makes sense

IF a believers says ..how do I really know I am saved..how do we answer.

Do we say it's because you are chosen or it's because you have a living heart faith towards Christ

If you are still confused by my posts then try this

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

Also are you asking those questions from a position of safety believing that you and your loved ones are chosen therefore you have nothing to fear

No, I'm asking wondering how people feel about the idea that God might be entitled to a choise in what happens to the people he choose to create.

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

Is it not possible that you will renounce Christ before you die and what assurance do you have that you are chosen and safe from hell

No and my assurance is in Christ; I'm born again; I'm a son of God; I'm an heir; I'm adopted; I'm part of the bride of Christ; I have the Holy Spirit as a down payment.

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

My concern is that you don't use faith in Christ as the standard to judge oneself.

But I do.

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

I find the thought of being chosen not very satisfying and very very very subjective whereas faith is a substance that I can rely on as it is centred on Christ and produces fruit

And because I was chosen (as were you) I was given faith (as were you). My salvation is of God not me so I can be confident in it, I don't have to doubt and think "I" might fall away because Christ has said He will never leave or forsake me.

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

It does seem by the OP that chosen is more important than faith....sorry Oz if that's not the case

No it's not the case, it's nothing to do with that.

It's about how people feel about an idea.

God either does or does not get a choice in who goes to heaven. I'm asking people how do they feel about the idea of God actually getting to make that choice?

FunOz
Thanks for answering and I commend you for being sincere and honest

They were tough questions I asked but as you would be aware many Christian parents are backflipping on their values to same sex marriage or other areas when they find out their kids have embraced some sin

Am glad to see your faith towards God is strong and won't change regardless if others change.

My apologies for putting you in this position but appreciate your responses
I did misread how you viewed chosen but that was my fault

Originally Posted by FunFromOz

No it's not the case, it's nothing to do with that.

It's about how people feel about an idea.

God either does or does not get a choice in who goes to heaven. I'm asking people how do they feel about the idea of God actually getting to make that choice?

The Bible says that God shows no favoritism which excludes that he sends Anne to heaven because she is Anne and Roger to hell because he is Roger. It also defines favoritism as a sin, so that is how I feel about that, dont make God a sinner.

Originally Posted by Colonel

The Bible says that God shows no favoritism which excludes that he sends Anne to heaven because she is Anne and Roger to hell because he is Roger. It also defines favoritism as a sin, so that is how I feel about that, dont make God a sinner.

Thanks Colonel, though that seems like a theological answer is it not?

I'm not looking to see if you think the idea's right or wrong, Biblical or non-Biblical but what emotion it causes you to feel.

If you could describe the "idea" in one word, an emotive word, but not saying it's right or wrong etc is there a word you would use?

I loathe applied favoritism ?