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    The facts are beginning to surface. Here is a little something going on in Michigan.


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/op...fr=1&fs=e&s=cl

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    The facts are beginning to surface. Here is a little something going on in Michigan.


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/op...fr=1&fs=e&s=cl
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    Sudden Arrhythmic Death Syndrome, also known as SADS, has been studied for years. The syndrome is caused by an undetected genetic heart condition and often occurs in young adulthood.

    But ever since the COVID-19 vaccines were released in late 2020, people have continually suggested that the shots are making SADS more common.

    Articles and social media posts have highlighted instances of young athletes collapsing during games, with claims that the rate of these occurrences are way up since the vaccines came to market.

    Take this Instagram post: "SADS — according to International Olympic Committee data, an average of 29 athletes under the age of 35 suffer sudden death per year from 1966-2004. From March 2021 to March 2022, 769 athletes have died or suffered cardiac arrest."

    The post was flagged as part of Facebook's efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

    There are a number of issues here. First: the data itself. While the study that the post described as "International Olympic Committee data" only reflects sudden deaths, the 769 figure it is being compared with incorporates deaths and cardiac arrest episodes that did not result in death. PolitiFact's review of some of the reports that were counted in that figure also found the number included reports of cases that didn't involve any emergency medical episodes at all.

    Second, the study that the Instagram post said looked at sudden cardiac deaths in athletes from 1966 to 2004 wasn't, as it suggested, conducted by the International Olympic Committee. Rather, the findings were presented at a Dec. 7, 2004, committee meeting by researchers affiliated with the University Hospital Center in Lausanne, Switzerland.

    We were unable to get in touch with researchers involved in that study for more details or updated figures, and the International Olympic Committee told us that it doesn't track this kind of data.

    The 769 figure, meanwhile, comes from an April 2022 segment on One America News Network, a conservative cable news service that in the past has shared problematic claims related to COVID-19.

    In the clip, reporter Pearson Sharp talked about how tennis players Jannik Sinner and Paula Badosa had to drop out of the Miami Open in 2021. Sharp then said the women were just two of "more than 769 athletes who have collapsed during a game on the field over the last year from March of 2021 to March of this year." However, Sinner and Badosa did not collapse during any match. Tennis officials confirmed that Sinner was suffering from foot blisters and Badosa had a viral illness at the time.

    We reached out to Sharp about the data he used to get the figure. He told us the deaths and injuries were taken directly from headlines collected over the past year from around the world and sent several examples.

    But PolitiFact — and others — have repeatedly investigated the incidents cited in these claims. The details of these episodes show that vaccines are neither causing athletes to collapse, nor are they connected to other sudden death episodes.

    A review of the articles Sharp sent over also showed that the reports aren't consistent. Some cite medical professionals who ruled out vaccination as a cause. Others don't include any information on the athlete's vaccination status. And some were about athletes that neither collapsed nor experienced a cardiac event.

    One of the examples is Gilbert Kwemoi, a Gold medalist middle-distance runner from Kenya who collapsed in his home and died in August 2021. None of the reports about his death that we reviewed indicate whether he was vaccinated against COVID-19 or if it was a cardiac event that caused his death. His brother told news outlets that Kwemoi had developed an "illness" at a training camp.

    Another is French soccer player Franck Berrier, who died of a heart attack in August 2021 while playing tennis. But Berrier, before the vaccines were on the market, had acknowledged that he had a heart condition.
    PolitiFact | Claims connecting sudden death in athletes to COVID-19 vaccines fall short of scrutiny

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    Reports of sudden arrhythmia death syndrome (SADS) date back to the early 1990s. SADS is the result of genetic mutations that disrupt the electrical system that regulates the pumping action of the heart. This can lead to abnormal heart rhythm (arrhythmia) and sudden cardiac arrest. Some people who have these conditions may not exhibit any symptom at all; others may be prone to seizures as well as fainting under physical or emotional stress. The SADS Foundation recommends that people with SADS conditions get the COVID-19 vaccine.
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    John, what aout you throwing a information card giving us the facts about SADS and the vaccination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    John, what aout you throwing a information card giving us the facts about SADS and the vaccination?
    What's the use?

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    Well, I would like to know the source. Just because somebody writes something on facebook it is not a fact for me.
    If John thinks I am sharing misinformation, I would like to get to information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    Well, I would like to know the source. Just because somebody writes something on facebook it is not a fact for me.
    If John thinks I am sharing misinformation, I would like to get to information.
    Are you admitting to not searching for yourself? All the info (and more than you want to believe) is just as accessible to you as it is for us. No one...nobody...owes you a link or article. Do your own work.

    Or maybe you don't want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Are you admitting to not searching for yourself? All the info (and more than you want to believe) is just as accessible to you as it is for use. No one...nobody...owes you a link or article. Do your own work.

    Or maybe you don't want to.
    Well, if it is easy to connect scientific facts about the relations between vaccine and SADS , it would be nice if they would be added by those who believe this.
    I have added some links to my opinion, and John has written that I am throwing i the card of misinformation. Sorry, but now it is his turn to show up with information.

    And if have checked many links, but have not yet found solide proof that the vaccine causes SADS. But through facebook the OPINION that it does has spread fast. Opinions are ok, no problem with that, but they are not facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    Well, if it is easy to connect scientific facts about the relations between vaccine and SADS , it would be nice if they would be added by those who believe this.
    I have added some links to my opinion, and John has written that I am throwing i the card of misinformation. Sorry, but now it is his turn to show up with information.

    And if have checked many links, but have not yet found solide proof that the vaccine causes SADS. But through facebook the OPINION that it does has spread fast. Opinions are ok, no problem with that, but they are not facts.
    Here we go again tschau, it's like veja du all over again.

    Medicine and science are largely based on OPINIONS. YOU KNOW THIS, yet you try to conflate the issue.

    We all know or SHOULD know that any significant medical diagnosis should be followed up with a second OPINION. Now, we've been around that block before when you posted every pro-vaccine "study" that you could find and deemed it FACTual, no, no, it doesn't work that way.

    They have lied about the "vaccines" from day one. They don't prevent infection, they don't prevent transmission, they are not "safe and effective". Give it a break, at least attempt a look at reality.

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