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    Well, they abandoned good medicine when they sent everyone to CVS to get shots bypassing the doctor/patient relationship. The reason they did this was to prevent reports of adverse effects. A primary health care provider is required to report vaccine adverse effects only if they administered it (the shots). Since people were sent to CVS and other random places like "pop-ups" there is no requirement for primary physicians to report adverse events, they simply diagnose the patient with blood clots. All very clever but entirely bad medical practice.

    We are experiencing mass insanity when we take medical advice from politicians and not the primary physician. Totally insane.
    Not true. It is not uncommon to get any of your vaccinations from pharmacies and other sites. You fill out all the relevant insurance information, and provide your primary doctor's contact information and brief health history. As far as the "pop ups" they are run by hospitals and or health department, and they are definitely collecting the same information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan View Post
    Not true. It is not uncommon to get any of your vaccinations from pharmacies and other sites. You fill out all the relevant insurance information, and provide your primary doctor's contact information and brief health history. As far as the "pop ups" they are run by hospitals and or health department, and they are definitely collecting the same information.
    Actually it is true, it's the nuance of the rule.

    A primary health care provider is required to report vaccine adverse effects only if they administered it (the shots).
    They are not obligated to report an adverse event if they did not administer the shots.

    Beyond that Susan, can I ask if you think it a sound medical practice to receive treatments or vaccines without counsel from your primary physician? Just run down to the corner and get shots?

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    This is the rule.

    The reporting requirements for COVID-19 vaccines are the same for those authorized under emergency use or fully approved. Healthcare providers who administer COVID-19 vaccines are required by law to report the following to VAERS:

    Vaccine administration errors, whether or not associated with an adverse event (AE).

    If the incorrect mRNA COVID-19 vaccine product was inadvertently administered for a second dose in a 2-dose series, VAERS reporting is required.

    If a different product from the primary series is inadvertently administered for the additional or booster (third dose), VAERS reporting is required.

    VAERS reporting is not required for the following situations:

    If a mixed series is given intentionally (e.g., due to hypersensitivity to a vaccine ingredient)

    Mixing and matching of booster doses (as of October 21, 2021, mixing and matching of booster doses is allowed)
    VAERS - Report an Adverse Event

    If the primary doc did not administer the vaccine, there is no obligation on his or her part to report adverse events. They don't report them, they simply diagnose the patient with blood clots or seizures or myocarditis.

    Oh, and by the way, the pop up deal on the corner is long gone, they certainly aren't going to report anything and CVS will simply refer you to your doctor.

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    Actually, that's not true.



    Reports of suspected adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccines in Switzerland – update

    I see they are couching the findings with terms such as "concrete evidence" but I suppose that could go the other way as well, no concrete evidence that the shots didn't cause death. It's a narrative, word games but people are suffering from the Frankenstein policies.

    Switzerland is reporting many adverse effects from the experimental treatment.
    lets say so, if there would be one death the antivaxxer could connect to the vaccine you can be sure that they would do it. The antivaxxers are pretty strong here in Switzerland.

    And yes, there are reactions to the vaccine, and I never said something else.
    But the reactions to vaccines are always timely near to the vaccination. If you die 2 weeks later because of a stroke it is not automatically because of the vaccine. That is why it is so important to do autopsies.

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    Switzerland is reporting many adverse effects from the experimental treatment.
    the vaccine is not experimental after millions of vaccinations
    and is definitly not a treatement

    If the primary doc did not administer the vaccine, there is no obligation on his or her part to report adverse events. They don't report them, they simply diagnose the patient with blood clots or seizures or myocarditis.
    well, that is not true for docs here. The Health administration encourages people to report adverse reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    the vaccine is not experimental after millions of vaccinations
    and is definitly not a treatement
    Yeah, not sure what it is, it doesn't prevent transmission nor infection so it is not a vaccine, maybe it is a treatment for paranoia, fear of Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    Next try was Dr. Kary Mullis, a Nobel prize winner
    Again not a lucky take
    This is somebody I will not trust because
    - he believes in ETs
    - he has repeatenly consumed LSD and other drugs
    So because you're a Christian, does that mean Muslims and atheists should disqualify your knowledge and information? People can have expertise and truth in an area of medicine or science and still have other spiritual belief systems. I find your ability to judge someone and toss aside their information because of a quick google pretty narrow minded....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    the second person I did a research on was Naomi Wolf.
    One of her tweets claimed that vaccines were a "software platform that can receive uploads".
    Now please think about if that is possible. Earlier this year I was wondering and did a research about how small the smallest chips are. I also have talked with a software engenieer,
    there is no way you can hide software in a vaccine.
    Actually, there is and they can. I've seen many videos about this.... however, I don't keep a list so that I can post on a moment's notice.

    There is, however, this... there has been graphine oxide found in the vaccines and this German chemist tells us there is something even more sinister in the vaccine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    the vaccine is not experimental after millions of vaccinations
    and is definitly not a treatement


    well, that is not true for docs here. The Health administration encourages people to report adverse reactions.
    I guess in some ways, you are correct... it's gone through some trials so it's not 100% experimental. They already knew what administering it to humans would do.



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    Dr. Sheri Tenpenny. Excellent.



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