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    Burning down churches in Canada


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    "We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment" (1Cor14:3)

    Somebody call Joel and report Canadians not living their best life now.

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    There's way more to this than random vandals running around burning down churches. The church burnings, and notice Tucker mentioned Catholic and Anglican, are in response to unmarked mass grave sites being found at "residential schools." And while the grave sites have never been a secret, it's all being made public on a scale we have never seen before. Hundreds of dead children... thousands across Canada.

    Residential schools were set up by the government and run by the churches, mainly by, you guessed it, Catholic and Anglican. The stories of abuse, rape, torture, sickness and death are horrific. Their mandate was to remove the savage from the child. Their hair was cut, they were punished for speaking their native languages... Most never recovered from the abuse. And the ones who died were buried at the school sites. Keep in mind, these are unmarked graves, not mass graves.

    First Kamloops, BC hit the news with 215 graves. Then 751 at Cowessess First Nations in Saskatchewan. The Cowesses school was run by the Roman Catholics from 1899 to 1981, when the Reserve took over till it closed in 1996. So we're looking at a span of over 80 years when run by the RCC, making it approx 10 deaths per year, still unacceptable, but no antibiotics for much of that time ... so how many died because of lack of medicines and how many died from abuse, it's hard to say. But as I said before the testimonies of the people who were torn from their families and forced to be there tell a horrendous story. 182 near Cranbrook, BC. And the numbers keep coming.
    We believe that God is bringing this all to the forefront. It's time to bring the ugliness of the Residential Schools out where we can no longer bury it or deny it happened. It's time for healing.


    From Wikipedia:
    In Canada, the Indian residential school system was a network of mandatory boarding schools for Indigenous peoples. The first residential school opened in 1828, and the last one closed in 1997. The last one to close was Kivalliq Hall in Rankin Inlet, in what is now Nunavut; it became a IRSSA-recognized school in 2019 following a court ruling, which is why earlier accounts describe the last school closing in 1996. The schools operated in all Canadian provinces and territories except Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, and Newfoundland and Labrador. The Indian Residential School Settlement Agreement (IRSSA) has formally recognized 139 residential schools across Canada, but this number excludes schools that operated without federal support.

    The network was funded by the Canadian government's Department of Indian Affairs and administered by Christian churches. The school system was created to remove Indigenous children from the influence of their own culture and assimilate them into the dominant Canadian culture. Over the course of the system's more than hundred-year existence, around 150,000 children were placed in residential schools nationally. By the 1930s about 30 percent of Indigenous children were believed to be attending residential schools. The number of school-related deaths remains unknown due to incomplete records. Estimates range from 3,200 to over 30,000.




    The graves were never a secret: Why so many residential school cemeteries remain unmarked
    Tristin Hopper 2021-06-02
    The graves were never a secret: Why so many residential school cemeteries remain unmarked

    Why so many children died at Indian Residential Schools
    At some schools, annual death rates were as high as one in 20
    Author of the article:
    Tristin Hopper May 29, 2021
    Why so many children died at Indian Residential Schools | National Post

    182 unmarked graves discovered near residential school in B.C.'s Interior, First Nation says
    182 unmarked graves discovered near residential school in B.C.'''s Interior, First Nation says | CBC News

    More than 800 residential school students died in Alberta — advocates say it's time to find their graves
    More than 800 residential school students died in Alberta — advocates say it'''s time to find their graves | CBC News

    Sask. First Nation announces hundreds of unmarked graves found at former residential school site
    (Now known as Cowessess)
    Sask. First Nation announces hundreds of unmarked graves found at former residential school site | CBC News


    So there are many, many articles about this....
    The burning of the churches is in response to the "finding" of the mass grave sites.

    Now, the toppling of the statue of Queen Elizabeth.... there's a report that back in 1964, the Queen and Pr.Phillip visited the Residential School at Kamloops, selected 10 children to go with them and the children were never seen again. There's lots to find on this as well, but it's very interesting that the one eye witness who was willing to testify at the Tribunal, died mysteriously before he could.


    I believe I've posted this link before.

    Aboriginal Residential School Survivor Shares An Odd Story About The Queen of England – Collective Evolution

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    There's way more to this than random vandals running around burning down churches. The church burnings, and notice Tucker mentioned Catholic and Anglican, are in response to unmarked mass grave sites being found at "residential schools." And while the grave sites have never been a secret, it's all being made public on a scale we have never seen before. Hundreds of dead children... thousands across Canada.

    Residential schools were set up by the government and run by the churches, mainly by, you guessed it, Catholic and Anglican. The stories of abuse, rape, torture, sickness and death are horrific. Their mandate was to remove the savage from the child. Their hair was cut, they were punished for speaking their native languages... Most never recovered from the abuse. And the ones who died were buried at the school sites. Keep in mind, these are unmarked graves, not mass graves.

    First Kamloops, BC hit the news with 215 graves. Then 751 at Cowessess First Nations in Saskatchewan. The Cowesses school was run by the Roman Catholics from 1899 to 1981, when the Reserve took over till it closed in 1996. So we're looking at a span of over 80 years when run by the RCC, making it approx 10 deaths per year, still unacceptable, but no antibiotics for much of that time ... so how many died because of lack of medicines and how many died from abuse, it's hard to say. But as I said before the testimonies of the people who were torn from their families and forced to be there tell a horrendous story. 182 near Cranbrook, BC. And the numbers keep coming.
    We believe that God is bringing this all to the forefront. It's time to bring the ugliness of the Residential Schools out where we can no longer bury it or deny it happened. It's time for healing.


    From Wikipedia:
    In Canada, the Indian residential school system was a network of mandatory boarding schools for Indigenous peoples. The first residential school opened in 1828, and the last one closed in 1997. The last one to close was Kivalliq Hall in Rankin Inlet, in what is now Nunavut; it became a IRSSA-recognized school in 2019 following a court ruling, which is why earlier accounts describe the last school closing in 1996. The schools operated in all Canadian provinces and territories except Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, and Newfoundland and Labrador. The Indian Residential School Settlement Agreement (IRSSA) has formally recognized 139 residential schools across Canada, but this number excludes schools that operated without federal support.

    The network was funded by the Canadian government's Department of Indian Affairs and administered by Christian churches. The school system was created to remove Indigenous children from the influence of their own culture and assimilate them into the dominant Canadian culture. Over the course of the system's more than hundred-year existence, around 150,000 children were placed in residential schools nationally. By the 1930s about 30 percent of Indigenous children were believed to be attending residential schools. The number of school-related deaths remains unknown due to incomplete records. Estimates range from 3,200 to over 30,000.




    The graves were never a secret: Why so many residential school cemeteries remain unmarked
    Tristin Hopper 2021-06-02
    The graves were never a secret: Why so many residential school cemeteries remain unmarked

    Why so many children died at Indian Residential Schools
    At some schools, annual death rates were as high as one in 20
    Author of the article:
    Tristin Hopper May 29, 2021
    Why so many children died at Indian Residential Schools | National Post

    182 unmarked graves discovered near residential school in B.C.'s Interior, First Nation says
    182 unmarked graves discovered near residential school in B.C.'''s Interior, First Nation says | CBC News

    More than 800 residential school students died in Alberta — advocates say it's time to find their graves
    More than 800 residential school students died in Alberta — advocates say it'''s time to find their graves | CBC News

    Sask. First Nation announces hundreds of unmarked graves found at former residential school site
    (Now known as Cowessess)
    Sask. First Nation announces hundreds of unmarked graves found at former residential school site | CBC News


    So there are many, many articles about this....
    The burning of the churches is in response to the "finding" of the mass grave sites.

    Now, the toppling of the statue of Queen Elizabeth.... there's a report that back in 1964, the Queen and Pr.Phillip visited the Residential School at Kamloops, selected 10 children to go with them and the children were never seen again. There's lots to find on this as well, but it's very interesting that the one eye witness who was willing to testify at the Tribunal, died mysteriously before he could.


    I believe I've posted this link before.

    Aboriginal Residential School Survivor Shares An Odd Story About The Queen of England – Collective Evolution
    Holy Childhood Church and orphanage of Indian children has a terrible past that has been swept under a rock for decades.

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    The churches burned is now at 48. I'm thinking this may have started as retaliation but has gone much farther now.

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex...WETig863nC8Vs4

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    Such anguish and pain is finding an outlet. Not the right one, for to take pain away fully, there was a sacrifice made - the body of Jesus was made to absorb all pain, once and for all. I pray that in the end, there is a reconciliation that takes away all pain and opens up a pathway to complete healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highly Favoured View Post
    Such anguish and pain is finding an outlet. Not the right one, for to take pain away fully, there was a sacrifice made - the body of Jesus was made to absorb all pain, once and for all. I pray that in the end, there is a reconciliation that takes away all pain and opens up a pathway to complete healing.
    Proverbs 29:11 A fool gives free rein to his anger, but a wise man bides his time and calms it.

    Giving full vent to anger only increases the venting as folks think that somehow by "getting it out" it will somehow make it better, That is not the case, in fact just the opposite occurs. I've seen these new businesses pop up called "rage rooms" where for a fee you can go in and break stuff, scream, etc., it's just practice for a fool.

    BTW, they are referring to "mass grave sites" in all this gaslighting, I think that is what you would call a cemetery.

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    "Residential schools were set up by the government and run by the churches, mainly by, you guessed it, Catholic and Anglican. The stories of abuse, rape, torture, sickness and death are horrific. Their mandate was to remove the savage from the child. Their hair was cut, they were punished for speaking their native languages... Most never recovered from the abuse. And the ones who died were buried at the school sites. Keep in mind, these are unmarked graves, not mass graves."

    Yes, these were horrible acts performed by the Church on behalf of the state.

    The Church should maintain its independence from the state and prophetically critique its actions (as well as those of the society as a whole) whenever those actions are immoral.

    As you noted, the children were buried in unmarked graves, suggesting that the Church did not consider them to be actual human beings. (Or, they were simply trying to cover up their misdeeds.)

    I was happy to read that Native Canadian leaders have condemned the fires:

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    First Nations leaders have condemned the fires. Chief Clarence Louie of the Osoyoos Indian Band, who is also tribal chair and spokesman for the Okanagan Nation Alliance, told Global News on June 27 he has no doubt the fires were intentionally set.

    "Obviously, it's the same group of people. Why did they do it under the cover of darkness? Because it's a criminal act and they are criminal," he said.

    In a statement released on June 26, the council for the Lower Similkameen Indian Band expressed its "disbelief and anger" over the church fires. "These churches represent places of worship for community members as well as gathering spaces for many in various celebrations or times of loss. It will be felt deeply for those that sought comfort and solace in the Church," it said in a statement.

    The council added, "This is a symptom of the intergenerational trauma our survivors and intergenerational descendants are experiencing, [but] there are supports to help deal with these emotions in a more healing way."

    Perry Bellegarde, Assembly of First Nations national chief, said on June 30 the Indigenous way is not to burn things down, but, rather, is about building relationships and coming together.

    Arson and vandalism continue at Canadian churches as more Indigenous burial sites are revealed | America Magazine

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