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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    The point is, no one had to die of this thing. It's very, VERY treatable.
    really?
    so if you do not have to die from the virus, why will a tiny part of the same virus kill you?
    And why have people died who were getting the treatment you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    really?
    so if you do not have to die from the virus, why will a tiny part of the same virus kill you?
    And why have people died who were getting the treatment you suggest?



    It's not the same virus. It's the mRNA technology, what they're also calling "spike proteins". It's the engineering that they've put into the vaccine that's being transmitted from person to person. It was created to do this, to alter our DNA and our immune system so that we can no longer fight off covid and other diseases that happen upon us.

    And the treatments that could cure covid were outlawed very early in this scam/plandemic. Drs were forbidden to use HCQ and any dr who spoke up, saying they were having 100% success with HCQ were vilified and threatened. Pharmacies were ordered to refuse filling HCQ prescriptions and THEY even reported drs who were trying to use it. Their videos were removed and they were threatened with being fired, and in fact many were, and even their license to practice were revoked.

    I didn't start hearing about Ivermectin till later but the success with it is well documented as well.
    I can provide you with video after video of Doctors, Nurses, Scientists, ordinary people who have had success. There are videos and websites of groups of these people trying to get people to listen. Can you provide me with evidence of people being treated with HCQ or Ivermectin and still dying of JUST covid. Sometimes co-morbidities could still cause death but covid alone does not have to kill.



    Seriously, are you just being argumentative or do you really not seen any this stuff.

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    In Europe there was a big euphory when the idea with HCQ come up last spring. It was used in many countries, i remember that specially France did use it widely. Now I only can talk for Europe where the situation is very different than in Canada or USA. I am not discussing the numbers of patients treated with HCQ there, this is only about Europe. It was tested on thousands of patients hospilized with Covid-19 and it has not prevented deaths, For that reason this treatement has lost meaning here. I hear that it is different in the US and Canada. Great for you.

    It's not the same virus. It's the mRNA technology, what they're also calling "spike proteins".
    You can only produce a vaccine from the virus that causes the disease.

    I take the time to read and watch articles, videos.
    I hope you do the same and read that much about resources that do not prove your point.
    I also am not quick to say things are wrong, what I say is that much is not comprehensible to me.
    In many videos they are talking about bad things that will come, but I can not follow they general steps that are leading to those opinions.

    are you just being argumentative
    Maybe it sounds that way. Yes, in some way i really like a good argumentation, but I am always ready to acknowledge a good argument and admit mistakes on my part. It is my wish to recognize facts and to understand them better. I also think that we benefit from good research work that is evidence based and controlled through others.
    I have a very busy weekend, but I will try to find some time to think about my posting different arguments here that go against some posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    In Europe there was a big euphory when the idea with HCQ come up last spring. It was used in many countries, i remember that specially France did use it widely. Now I only can talk for Europe where the situation is very different than in Canada or USA. I am not discussing the numbers of patients treated with HCQ there, this is only about Europe. It was tested on thousands of patients hospilized with Covid-19 and it has not prevented deaths, For that reason this treatement has lost meaning here. I hear that it is different in the US and Canada. Great for you.


    You can only produce a vaccine from the virus that causes the disease.

    I take the time to read and watch articles, videos.
    I hope you do the same and read that much about resources that do not prove your point.
    I also am not quick to say things are wrong, what I say is that much is not comprehensible to me.
    In many videos they are talking about bad things that will come, but I can not follow they general steps that are leading to those opinions.


    Maybe it sounds that way. Yes, in some way i really like a good argumentation, but I am always ready to acknowledge a good argument and admit mistakes on my part. It is my wish to recognize facts and to understand them better. I also think that we benefit from good research work that is evidence based and controlled through others.
    I have a very busy weekend, but I will try to find some time to think about my posting different arguments here that go against some posts.
    What you don't seem to be understanding is that they are calling it a vaccine when it's NOT a vaccine in the true meaning of the word. They have engineered this serum to do what THEY want it to do. They're calling it a vaccine to trick people into taking it. Their end goal is reducing world population.

    Moderna calls their "vaccine" an operating system... that doesn't sound like a traditional vaccine to me.

    My understanding of the so called "tests" is that the HCQ was not used in effective doses to "prove" that it was ineffective.

    Come up with more arguments if you want to, but there's a really good chance I'm not going to reply anymore because while you may like a good debate, I never have and never will. I know what I know because I've taken the time to watch, read and listen. I think I've said enough in these various threads that if you haven't connected the dots of what I've said so far, more debate isn't going to help.

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    It is on me to the back down.
    I have gotten this wrong. I thought that you were by posting here into debating too.
    Since you are not, I do not want to hurt your feelings by arguing. I fully understand your point.

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    In Europe there was a big euphory when the idea with HCQ come up last spring. It was used in many countries, i remember that specially France did use it widely. Now I only can talk for Europe where the situation is very different than in Canada or USA. I am not discussing the numbers of patients treated with HCQ there, this is only about Europe. It was tested on thousands of patients hospilized with Covid-19 and it has not prevented deaths, For that reason this treatement has lost meaning here. I hear that it is different in the US and Canada. Great for you.
    They rigged the HCQ studies to fail. Lancet had to retract bogus material.

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    Lancet retracted the study about cardiac toxicity of hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 (because it seems that the side effects of HCQ connected to heart arrhythmy are lower that first believed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tschau View Post
    Lancet retracted the study about cardiac toxicity of hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 (because it seems that the side effects of HCQ connected to heart arrhythmy are lower that first believed)
    No, you're wrong again.

    We were unable to confirm a benefit of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, when used alone or with a macrolide, on in-hospital outcomes for COVID-19. Each of these drug regimens was associated with decreased in-hospital survival and an increased frequency of ventricular arrhythmias when used for treatment of COVID-19.
    DEFINE_ME

    The Lancet incident was only one example of the medical mafia attempting to discredit HCQ as an effective treatment. Other studies used massive doses of HCQ and didn't add Zinc to the regimen, basically murder.

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